4x4 Tent - Blue Hash and A-Train

smokingrubber

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Today, I installed the drain tube on the dehumidifier and placed it on a small table over the controller. This will allow it to continuously drain back into the reservior. Works pretty sweet!

I also topped off the water. The ppm dropped from 1230 (3 days ago at res change) to 940 and I lost about 6 gallons. So I replaced the water and added 200ml of FloraNova Bloom. At $80 gallon that's gonna suck if I have to do that every 3 days!
 

mrduke

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Lookin' damn fine, Smonkin. Hope you got room for the streching whey you flip those beauty's into flower
 

smokingrubber

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Lookin' damn fine, Smonkin. Hope you got room for the streching whey you flip those beauty's into flower
I flipped to 12/12 on Jan 1. Nice round date.

Unfortunately, I ordered from HorticultureSource.com and I forgot thats the same company I had a little problem with last time. "No tax" got me :( It seems they've taken the end of the year off because I ordered on the 29th and I haven't even gotten an "order shipped" confirmation yet. That's 7 days and they haven't friggn shipped yet grrrrrrr. Im waiting on the timers, blowers and fans, and the extra hood. I can't plug in the digital ballasts because I dont have a 240v smart plug yet. That's all part of the Titan 5 timer.

These plants can get approximately 4ft tall with no problem, and I would still have more than 12 inches of clearance between the light. They're only about 2ft tall now. I wouldn't mind it one bit if they stretched at least another foot in the next week or two. Right now the light's on a yo-yo and it's still about 30 inches above the plants (because I only have one light up and it has to cover about 7ft across). I'm loving this ebb system btw.
 

Bob Smith

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I flipped to 12/12 on Jan 1. Nice round date.

Unfortunately, I ordered from HorticultureSource.com and I forgot thats the same company I had a little problem with last time. "No tax" got me :( It seems they've taken the end of the year off because I ordered on the 29th and I haven't even gotten an "order shipped" confirmation yet. That's 7 days and they haven't friggn shipped yet grrrrrrr. Im waiting on the timers, blowers and fans, and the extra hood. I can't plug in the digital ballasts because I dont have a 240v smart plug yet. That's all part of the Titan 5 timer.

These plants can get approximately 4ft tall with no problem, and I would still have more than 12 inches of clearance between the light. They're only about 2ft tall now. I wouldn't mind it one bit if they stretched at least another foot in the next week or two. Right now the light's on a yo-yo and it's still about 30 inches above the plants (because I only have one light up and it has to cover about 7ft across). I'm loving this ebb system btw.
From someone who's currently dealing with it, it sounds like some headroom issues might be in your future.

Those plants are gonna get 4 foot tall (minimum, probably closer to 5 or 5.5, but it's pretty strain dependent), and if I was you, I'd figure out something sooner rather then later - even at 12" away from the light, without some good plant rotation, light bleaching would likely be in your future.

If the plants are on a yo-yo, does that mean that you have an extra 8" of space (if need be) by removing the yo-yo and hanging it directly from the ceiling supports? Because it's 99% you'll need to do that, IMHO.

Not trying to sound like a Negative Nelly, just have been dealing with height problems and I can tell you from experience that it's something you don't wanna deal with - that being said, you're early enough that you can take measures now to prevent it as best you can.

Anyways, just my $.02.

BTW, happy new year.
 

smokingrubber

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Yeah with the yo-yos I've got extra room if I need it. I would be surprised if they got to 5½' tall. That would probably be the absolute maximim height I could handle. That would be about 3 tons of bud though so you won't hear much whining out of me :) Since they're only in 2 gallon pots, I seriously doubt they'll get that tall. But if they do .... cha-ching!

I mentioned that I topped off the res with 200ml of FloraNova the other day. When I got home yesterday the ppm had climbed to 1850. Oh crap! I had to dilute it. I'm only using 40 gallons of my 55 gallon reservior. Since my reservior has a shut-off float valve on the inlet, I couldnt just turn the water on so that it would fill more (I tried). I had to set up a bucket to collect the RO water. YEP YOU GUESSED IT! I friggn forgot about it. Oh, I had even set a timer to remind me. That didnt do me much good since I wasnt even home when it went off :( I was smart enough to set the bucket on top off the washing machine though. When I got home there was about 5 gallons in the washer and just some drip splashes on the ground. Whew.

I tossed in an extra 6 gallons and the ppm is down to 1450 this morning. I have to keep an eye on the reservior though because the dehumidifier dumps water in there too.
 

Bob Smith

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Yeah with the yo-yos I've got extra room if I need it. I would be surprised if they got to 5½' tall. That would probably be the absolute maximim height I could handle. That would be about 3 tons of bud though so you won't hear much whining out of me :) Since they're only in 2 gallon pots, I seriously doubt they'll get that tall. But if they do .... cha-ching!

I mentioned that I topped off the res with 200ml of FloraNova the other day. When I got home yesterday the ppm had climbed to 1850. Oh crap! I had to dilute it. I'm only using 40 gallons of my 55 gallon reservior. Since my reservior has a shut-off float valve on the inlet, I couldnt just turn the water on so that it would fill more (I tried). I had to set up a bucket to collect the RO water. YEP YOU GUESSED IT! I friggn forgot about it. Oh, I had even set a timer to remind me. That didnt do me much good since I wasnt even home when it went off :( I was smart enough to set the bucket on top off the washing machine though. When I got home there was about 5 gallons in the washer and just some drip splashes on the ground. Whew.

I tossed in an extra 6 gallons and the ppm is down to 1450 this morning. I have to keep an eye on the reservior though because the dehumidifier dumps water in there too.
Lol...........so you already know about me busting a 1000HPS ballast with leaving my RO filter on all night?

Ironically, last night I'm laying in bed and can't sleep as I'm dreaming about my 8x8 tent with all the fixin's, etc...............it's about 1:00am, and then I realize - I LEFT THE FUCKING WATER ON ALL NIGHT.

So I sprint outta bed in my boxers, run out into the 0 degree temps (really cold here in, uh, LA) and into the garage, and turn it off with about five minutes before the trash can toppled over and soaked the whole garage.

Ironic it would happen to you on the same day, and with the same filter :clap:
 

smokingrubber

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LOL Ironic! Yeah I remember you did that. That was right around the time I ordered my shut off valve. Those things only work when you use them btw. LOL.

My friend has done it so many times it's not funny. He did it 3 times in one week once! He has several 5 gallon buckets set up in his kitchen and he has to fill about 5 of them for each res change. Plus, he has to change 2 reserviors! He's GOOD with a mop LOL. I thought I was going to avoid those problems with the shut-off valve. It's still only as good as the operator.
 

smokingrubber

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Ive tracked my crap and it's almost here. I will definately be setting up the new light and the fans tonight. The girls are READY for more light! They'll be stoked (a little cali slang for Bob)!

Im kinda torn on the dehumidifier. It doesnt come back on after a power interuption. The lights on the top are bright red so I had to tape them off. Its always on LOW and now I can't even tell if its ON cuz I taped off the lights grrr. I really like that it drains into the reservior though! It's keeping my levels perfect. Hopefully it's not drinking the electricity.

Now I have to figure out the air-flow. Check out this 3-D pdf and tell me what you think. You will need the newest adobe pdf reader, and you just have to click on the model to spin it. There are tools at the top. http://www.mediafire.com/file/tqlzjn2i22i/tent.pdf

The only constant is the dehumidifier. That will have to stay where I show it. The Can-66 can move. I have:

2 - 16" oscillating fans
2 - 6" clip-on fans
1 - 10" floor fan (HO)

I can open or close any of the floor vents you see around the outside. Where should I put the Can-66, how should I position the fans and what vents should I leave open?
 

smokingrubber

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No one has any suggestions for how to vent this fuckr?

My friend and I spend several hours last night installing everything. Didn't get done till about 1am. Still had to wake up and go buy more vent tube to finish it.

The lights just went on :)
 

laserbrn

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No one has any suggestions for how to vent this fuckr?

My friend and I spend several hours last night installing everything. Didn't get done till about 1am. Still had to wake up and go buy more vent tube to finish it.

The lights just went on :)
Oh yeah, meant to tell you. Link is no good to the pdf file. Can't see what you're talking about.
 

smokingrubber

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So the main issue is: I have two 16" wall-mount oscillating fans, should I put them both on one end to create circulation or should they be on opposite sides facing each other (oscillating)?

Here's what Im thinking. I should open the vent directly below the filter. Right in front of that, have one or two HO floor fans pushing air down the center isle toward the dehumidifier. Then two 16" oscillating fans above the dehumidier pushing the top air back toward the filter.

I also have 2 weak 6" king-air fans I don't know what to do with.
 

Bob Smith

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So the main issue is: I have two 16" wall-mount oscillating fans, should I put them both on one end to create circulation or should they be on opposite sides facing each other (oscillating)?

Here's what Im thinking. I should open the vent directly below the filter. Right in front of that, have one or two HO floor fans pushing air down the center isle toward the dehumidifier. Then two 16" oscillating fans above the dehumidier pushing the top air back toward the filter.

I also have 2 weak 6" king-air fans I don't know what to do with.
Like Laser, I'm having issues with viewing it (and am not sure how helpful it'd be, anyways).

Regarding the oscillating fans, you're gonna want them on opposite ends, without a doubt.

And what are the floor fans doing in there except taking up valuable space?

Can you grab us a quick pick? Two 16" oscillating fans are more then enough for a 9x4 tent.
 

smokingrubber

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Im at work right now so I cant do pics yet. Later this evening I will do a FULL update with pics so you can see the 2k setup ;)

I'm getting reports that the digital ballasts are causing interference with the nutrient monitor. According to the monitor, my ppm is 1900 w/ 4.00 ph & 81f degree water! None of that can be right.

With the bucket system there is a wide isle down the center. There is plenty of room down there for fans. You'll see when I get pics later. Did you try the second link?
 

smokingrubber

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Here is a pic update

2000 WATTS MF! mooohooohoohahahhaaaaahaaaahahaha

The first two were two days ago when the lights were off.



Here are the digitals mounted and proud. The engine room!


Same buds under hps


The shot from the door. Dual 1000w HPS


It shouldn't be too long now :)
 
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