4x1000 +co2+9 strains+=good times

frenchy said:

I had the same problem last year.I grew some trainwreck and my leaves were just like yours.im not talking about the color,i am talking about how wrinkly and droopy they are.Something is wrong in your room.What is your temp,humidity and how much air flow do you have in your room?

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right right. i didn't want to start throwing out adjectives... but we were seeing the same thing. ur girls a while back...



some of BayAreaMedicals girls...



i'm sure you can see the difference. no offense intended bro. i got a few plants myself right now... some of them look like Bay's... and some of them look -far- worse than the girl in the first pic. And they all get relatively the same treatment. You've got nothing to worry about if they are having growth like what you have described. So long as they are growing well they will pack on flowers and trichomes. And even BayAreaMedical has problems with his girls... last crop some of them got real nute burned. shite happens. closest thing i've seen to a 'perfect crop' would prolly be some of Raiderman's journals... he's been doing the same shite for 9 years straight. pretty well got his style dialed in.

ur garden IS the bomb. no worries there man
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God damn bays girls look good in that pic............

JACKMAYOFFER said:

Big girls equal big buds isnt that what we all dream of..

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LOL... very true....you planing on doing any topping, lollipopin , ect.?

DaGambler said:

right right. i didn't want to start throwing out adjectives... but we were seeing the same thing. ur girls a while back...

some of BayAreaMedicals girls...

i'm sure you can see the difference. no offense intended bro. i got a few plants myself right now... some of them look like Bay's... and some of them look -far- worse than the girl in the first pic. And they all get relatively the same treatment. You've got nothing to worry about if they are having growth like what you have described. So long as they are growing well they will pack on flowers and trichomes. And even BayAreaMedical has problems with his girls... last crop some of them got real nute burned. shite happens. closest thing i've seen to a 'perfect crop' would prolly be some of Raiderman's journals... he's been doing the same shite for 9 years straight. pretty well got his style dialed in.

ur garden IS the bomb. no worries there man
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I just can't believe you are looking at picture #1 and #2 and tell that guy everything is ok.You can clearly see the difference,his leaves should be up and shiny,just like picture #2.Off course he is going to get some out of it,but instead of getting let's say 2 to 3 ounces on each plant,it might just be 1 or less.When something is wrong in your garden you have to find out what is it.Judging by the room and the pictures,there is way too many plants,not enough space,that could be the start of the problem.Im not just saying these things,i had to learn how to grow on my own,made every possible mistakes you can think of.Some is wrong in this room.

frenchy said:

I just can't believe you are looking at picture #1 and #2 and tell that guy everything is ok.You can clearly see the difference,his leaves should be up and shiny,just like picture #2.Off course he is going to get some out of it,but instead of getting let's say 2 to 3 ounces on each plant,it might just be 1 or less.When something is wrong in your garden you have to find out what is it.Judging by the room and the pictures,there is way too many plants,not enough space,that could be the start of the problem.Im not just saying these things,i had to learn how to grow on my own,made every possible mistakes you can think of.Some is wrong in this room.

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an oz. apiece in a SeaOfGreen like he has going would be nothing to scoff at. That would be around or over a lb. per light. It looks like there is plenty of space to me... they are hardly even touching eachother. I'da thrown one more row in there and tip-toed down the middle. yeah, sure, they aren't perfectly healthy. are all of your plants? mine sure as hell aren't going to win any beauty pagents. thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. for all we know... whatever condition was present that wasn't ideal may already have been remedied. if they are having two week growth spurts like the one just pictured ... they're doing alright. Anyhow... if it isn't pH or ppm or (an overdose of co2 at 1500 ppm? not likely?) then there isn't much else that hasn't been covered since he's using RO water.

it's too early to tell... but i may end up wanting to trade my harvest for JackMayOffer's.

i may have already asked... but how are you watering these JMO?
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DaGambler said:

an oz. apiece in a SeaOfGreen like he has going would be nothing to scoff at. That would be around or over a lb. per light. It looks like there is plenty of space to me... they are hardly even touching eachother. I'da thrown one more row in there and tip-toed down the middle. yeah, sure, they aren't perfectly healthy. are all of your plants? mine sure as hell aren't going to win any beauty pagents. thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. for all we know... whatever condition was present that wasn't ideal may already have been remedied. if they are having two week growth spurts like the one just pictured ... they're doing alright. Anyhow... if it isn't pH or ppm or (an overdose of co2 at 1500 ppm? not likely?) then there isn't much else that hasn't been covered since he's using RO water.

it's too early to tell... but i may end up wanting to trade my harvest for JackMayOffer's.

i may have already asked... but how are you watering these JMO?
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could it be atributed to the fast growth over that 2 week period,where the plants are trying to grow faster than the plant can naturally grow,also i see this on my plants at the end of my vege cycle of 8 weeks where they are root bound.but like you said i wouldnt worry about it.when he changes his cycle to flower they will change again with the addition of bloom nutes and look different again.

drifter1978 said:

could it be atributed to the fast growth over that 2 week period,where the plants are trying to grow faster than the plant can naturally grow,also i see this on my plants at the end of my vege cycle of 8 weeks where they are root bound.but like you said i wouldnt worry about it.when he changes his cycle to flower they will change again with the addition of bloom nutes and look different again.

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Ya the reason im not worried is the growth that I see when I go in the room and what the pics look like are completly different..Just the last 4 days I have seen a dramatic amount of growth...

DaGambler said:

an oz. apiece in a SeaOfGreen like he has going would be nothing to scoff at. That would be around or over a lb. per light. It looks like there is plenty of space to me... they are hardly even touching eachother. I'da thrown one more row in there and tip-toed down the middle. yeah, sure, they aren't perfectly healthy. are all of your plants? mine sure as hell aren't going to win any beauty pagents. thats no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater. for all we know... whatever condition was present that wasn't ideal may already have been remedied. if they are having two week growth spurts like the one just pictured ... they're doing alright. Anyhow... if it isn't pH or ppm or (an overdose of co2 at 1500 ppm? not likely?) then there isn't much else that hasn't been covered since he's using RO water.

it's too early to tell... but i may end up wanting to trade my harvest for JackMayOffer's.

i may have already asked... but how are you watering these JMO?
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The room is 15'x9' with 62 total there is plenty of room once I hit the lights I will spread them out more .I had a long time fellow grower come by it had been 10 days sence he stopped by and he was blown away said a couple needed some more Nitrogen I took care of that rite away .I am going to take some more pics to show how much groth I have had just in the last few days its mind blowing the pic above is 1 of 2 plants that are odd balls these were 2 left over plants that were in the back yard I moved them in once I got the room up of course I sprayed them first to kill any insects. AS far as watering pump and wand hand to hand combat..

Smokiethebear said:

LOL... very true....you planing on doing any topping, lollipopin , ect.?

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Yes I topped 20 of them and will lollipop 20 of them the rest will be all natural and in the end there will be one winner and I will stick with the winning method ..

17 days from cutting should I chop them down and start over..

hell no they look full as shit ..run this crop thro..then 1 more..and your room should be dialed just in time for fall and winter..which youll probably get higher yields during winter...or in the very least have 2 run ur split a/c less...ur gonna have quite a bit on ganj..from those ladies there blowning up...

tilemaster said:

hell no they look full as shit ..run this crop thro..then 1 more..and your room should be dialed just in time for fall and winter..which youll probably get higher yields during winter...or in the very least have 2 run ur split a/c less...ur gonna have quite a bit on ganj..from those ladies there blowning up...

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Here is a few pics I put together I understand why Frenchy hates my grow he cant belive the growth 17 days from clipping here we go..

Im going with new growth plus they would not be growing this fast if something was terribly wrong..

might i ask were u found the 707 headband?

chronicj69 said:

might i ask were u found the 707 headband?

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It was a fellow prop 215 card holder I was given 12 clones I was told the mother plant was primo... You looking for some clones I have seen them on weed tracker..

Ok so im trying to get every thing I need to be prepared when I flip to 12 on 12off .In the past I have just started the 12 off but the guys at the Hydro store said to do 24 0r 36 hours of dark first to allow a faster flower trigger does any one have experiance with this?

JACKMAYOFFER said:

Ok so im trying to get every thing I need to be prepared when I flip to 12 on 12off .In the past I have just started the 12 off but the guys at the Hydro store said to do 24 0r 36 hours of dark first to allow a faster flower trigger does any one have experiance with this?

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i do 36 off before the 12 on / 12 off. i wouldn't call it experience necessarily ... that's just what i do.
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DaGambler said:

i do 36 off before the 12 on / 12 off. i wouldn't call it experience necessarily ... that's just what i do.
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Ok sounds good 36 hrs of dark it is gonna give them a week more than flip these girls..I have a feeling there going to produce some fat nugs...

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Here is a few pics I put together I understand why Frenchy hates my grow he cant belive the growth 17 days from clipping here we go..

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Relax body.I don't hate your garden,but you probably will once them bitches get out of control and you're running out of space

frenchy said:

Relax body.I don't hate your garden,but you probably will once them bitches get out of control and you're running out of space

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Man thats going to suck having so many buds There is plenty of room I will spread them out when I need to I have plenty of length in the room 15' the width is 9' I have seen the same foot print wit 100 plants..

DAY 20 The count down has begun...Getting ready to start 36 hours of dark in the next few days

how does a sealed room work ?
i know you give co2 when lights are on for their photosynthesis,but plants need to breath with 02 at nights, do you add o2 at nights or do you use a intake fan and a exhaust fan at nights to bring fresh air ?