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patrickkawi37

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TEA.... I'm using the advanced mother earth tea.. Only reason being because i dont know shit about tea. I was wondering if anyone used this stuff, or if they knew a better route to go for a tea. Last run i only flushed twice the whole run, i feel like i had some buildups. This run im trying to flush more, once a week, but a buddy of mine said instead of doing straight water, replace with a tea.

I gave the girls the tea last night at about 3ml\liter. It says on the bottle to do way more, but i didnt want to fuck anything up, and i know advanced always tells you to use half the bottle.
 
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trichome fiend

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patrickkawi37 said:
TEA.... I'm using the advanced mother earth tea.. Only reason being because i dont know shit about tea. I was wondering if anyone used this stuff, or if they knew a better route to go for a tea. Last run i only flushed twice the whole run, i feel like i had some buildups. This run im trying to flush more, once a week, but a buddy of mine said instead of doing straight water, replace with a tea.

I gave the girls the tea last night at about 3ml\liter. It says on the bottle to do way more, but i didnt want to fuck anything up, and i know advanced always tells you to use half the bottle.
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....here ya go bro! ...all ya need to know ---> https://www.rollitup.org/organics/427826-soil-food-web-gardening-compost.html#post5647830
 
RetiredMatthebrute

RetiredMatthebrute

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patrickkawi37 said:
TEA.... I'm using the advanced mother earth tea.. Only reason being because i dont know shit about tea. I was wondering if anyone used this stuff, or if they knew a better route to go for a tea. Last run i only flushed twice the whole run, i feel like i had some buildups. This run im trying to flush more, once a week, but a buddy of mine said instead of doing straight water, replace with a tea.

I gave the girls the tea last night at about 3ml\liter. It says on the bottle to do way more, but i didnt want to fuck anything up, and i know advanced always tells you to use half the bottle.
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you dont want to flush with tea.

if you brew your own it dosen't need to be diluted at all, not sure about the stuff your currently using.

relatively simple to brew a tea, you need a air pump with air stone, a sock, some worm castings, unsulfered molasses a bucket and some water.

put worm castings in sock, fill bucket up with water, put sock with worm casting isn the water and tie it to the rim. about 1/4 cup molasses and mix it into the water. add airstone and let sit for 48 hours..presto you got a tea

[video=youtube;xCcgPeS4pFg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcgPeS4pFg[/video]
 
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patrickkawi37

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thankyou guys! :shock: alot of information. theres Always something to learn

do you guys notice a huge difference from using tea?

retiredmatt you said that you wouldnt sub tea when you flush... does this mean that you flush as well as use straight tea? how often?

i just feel bad not giving my girls nutes.. and as of right now im watering every other day.. so if i did a flush, then a tea after, my girls wouldnt get nutes til the 5th day.. Do you think that the tea and flush would be beneficial enough to do that?
 
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pizzapuffer

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looks nice but fuck getting an ac. get a chiller with ice boxes. much cheaper to run. just costs a lot to get setup and some work building the manifolds.
 
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pizzapuffer said:
looks nice but fuck getting an ac. get a chiller with ice boxes. much cheaper to run. just costs a lot to get setup and some work building the manifolds.
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I'm not real sure about this, I do run one ice box in a 8 by 5 foot room with a 1kw hps running 12 hours a day. I'm using a roughly 30 gallon igloo cooler for the water and running a half horse chiller plus supplementing with a chest freezer, res and wort chiller. by the time the 12 hour cycle is up the temp in both the igloo is around 70 f depending on the conditions here, the chest freezer res isn't far behind at about 67F or so. To have anything left over to cool a 4kw room you'll have to be running a very large chiller. Forgot to add that the water temperature at lights on is usually 39 degrees in the cooler. In the freezer it depends on how I have the cycle timer set on the wort chiller, I'm trying to find a sweet spot but I don't think there is one. I simply still need to run AC.
 
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dbkick

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oh and about the tea, word, xtreme gardening tea brews. good stuff and much more pleasant to brew than mixing up your own bag.
 
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patrickkawi37

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dbkick said:
oh and about the tea, word, xtreme gardening tea brews. good stuff and much more pleasant to brew than mixing up your own bag.
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I will look into that for sure thanks. I need something easy for now until i get more settled, then I will look into brewing my own tea. the hydro shop i go to has these teas already ready to go you just drop them into a 20 gallon res. problem is the guy said they are only good for a few days, and if thats the case you cant stock up. and i only go to the hydro shop like once a month lol.

I dont know too much about chillers, my 2ton mini split is kicking some serious ass though. We will see how hard of a hit that takes on my electric bill lol. good thing i popped for the 19 seer :)

Just wondering how often you guys use tea in a soilless medium.. once a week? every couple weeks? and are you flushing once a week as well?
 
RetiredMatthebrute

RetiredMatthebrute

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patrickkawi37 said:
thankyou guys! :shock: alot of information. theres Always something to learn

do you guys notice a huge difference from using tea?

retiredmatt you said that you wouldnt sub tea when you flush... does this mean that you flush as well as use straight tea? how often?

i just feel bad not giving my girls nutes.. and as of right now im watering every other day.. so if i did a flush, then a tea after, my girls wouldnt get nutes til the 5th day.. Do you think that the tea and flush would be beneficial enough to do that?
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not really 100% sure what your asking..

what i meant is i wouldnt use tea to flush,, its just a waste of tea in my opinion. not using salt based nutes you dont need to flush anyways.

when you water with the tea i wouldnt dilute it at all, just go from bucket to plant. also only make what your going to use as it dosent store well.

there are other things you can add to the tea to increase available N-P-K, essentially what your doing with a compost tea is creating the "ideal" enviorment for the microbial life to multiply, then they feed on the additives you put in the water (molasses) and thier waste product (shit) is what the plants can uptake. you also add microbial life to your soil which continue to break down organic matter in your soil and feed the plants.

i couldnt help but see you talking about a res, is this a hydro grow, if so please dont take my tea advice as im not sure how good it will be for a hydroponic system.
 
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dbkick

dbkick

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patrickkawi37 said:
I will look into that for sure thanks. I need something easy for now until i get more settled, then I will look into brewing my own tea. the hydro shop i go to has these teas already ready to go you just drop them into a 20 gallon res. problem is the guy said they are only good for a few days, and if thats the case you cant stock up. and i only go to the hydro shop like once a month lol.

I dont know too much about chillers, my 2ton mini split is kicking some serious ass though. We will see how hard of a hit that takes on my electric bill lol. good thing i popped for the 19 seer :)

Just wondering how often you guys use tea in a soilless medium.. once a week? every couple weeks? and are you flushing once a week as well?
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Just remember those teas aren't a standalone nutrient, you'll still be adding the nutes and additives. what I do is I feed every other watering, I try to coordinate this and do a tea on the watering without feed. Since the tea only comes in at 200 ppm or so (unless you add some things, which I did this brew) , I just started a brew tonight and it's coinciding with my feeding so I went ahead and tossed in some small amounts of the nutrient lineup I use (which is totally organic and mostly shit) , my brew ended up at over 2000 ppm by the time I mixed everything in, its in a 5 gallon bucket and more than likely at the end of the 24-36 hours I brew it I'll cut it into 10 gallons with 5 gallons of straight RO water.
 
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dbkick

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xtreme gardening tea brews call for once a week, two cups at the base of the plant to 7 gallons of soil and then irrigate.
 
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dbkick

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and I take that back, those links matt posted I'm sure there's some standalone teas, the xtreme gardening and any tea recipe that only includes worm castings is nothing more than a microbe tea.
 
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patrickkawi37

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ok bare with me cause this shit is way over my head right now haha. I used the mother earth tea yesterday.. i went in there tonight and i got 2+ inches and they were dry.. first time drinking everything in 24 hours this run, so im thinking they liked it. The tea says it has earthworm castings, kelp and a few other things that i have no idea about.

Am i supposed to mix it with my nutrient solution? or go with straight water? Matt said above that its a waste to use it solo if its not a homebrew tea because it doesnt have the extra shit? IM CONFOOSED hahah

I think its going to take awhile for me to grasp this concept before i go brewing my own bat shit stew..

my question is..

by using this mother earth tea, once a week, and substituting that for my straight water flush, is this going to benefit me in some way?
 
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patrickkawi37

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I was wondering about molasses as well. reading that that goes well in tea.. If i use bud candy would that work the same? what if i did the tea, bud candy, and bacteria ? should i add orca and voodoo juice?
 
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RetiredMatthebrute

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dbkick said:
Just remember those teas aren't a standalone nutrient, you'll still be adding the nutes and additives. what I do is I feed every other watering, I try to coordinate this and do a tea on the watering without feed. Since the tea only comes in at 200 ppm or so (unless you add some things, which I did this brew) , I just started a brew tonight and it's coinciding with my feeding so I went ahead and tossed in some small amounts of the nutrient lineup I use (which is totally organic and mostly shit) , my brew ended up at over 2000 ppm by the time I mixed everything in, its in a 5 gallon bucket and more than likely at the end of the 24-36 hours I brew it I'll cut it into 10 gallons with 5 gallons of straight RO water.
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i agree and dissagree, tea can most certainly be a standalone nutrient source...BUT you do have to amend it with more stuff than just worm castings and molasses.

i like to use a organic granular type (non water sol) fertilizer in my sock like Epsoma garden tone or happy frog organic fertilizer. this will increase you ppm and make it so the tea is all you have to feed.

BUT as the plant gets bigger a simple worm poo tea will not be sufficient unless you have heavily amended your soil with good organic matter prior to planting.
 
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