400watt HPS Caramelicious, Buuble gum kush, Skunk Closet Grow
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dopeedogg
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Day 26 flowering
Ok so the 2 new caramelicious were also males. I yanked those out and I took 2 new female plants out of my back yard to replace them. ( They are both unknown bag seed plants)
The 1 caramelicious I have is about 2 feet tall and the 1st unknown bag seed plant is a little over 2 feet tall. The skunk is about 1 foot tall, but is by far budding the most. The bubblegum kush is about 14" tall and still growing, and is budding 2nd most. All the other plants are just now showing pistols and white hairs. ( Maybe they are budding slower because i germinated all them from seed, where as the skunk and kush were clones when i got them?)
Pic 1 - all from above
Pic 2 - 2 new females
Pic 3 & 4- All plants
( 2 big plants on left are caramelicious and 1st unknown, the middle plants are new females, and plants on right are skunk and kush)
Ok so the 2 new caramelicious were also males. I yanked those out and I took 2 new female plants out of my back yard to replace them. ( They are both unknown bag seed plants)
The 1 caramelicious I have is about 2 feet tall and the 1st unknown bag seed plant is a little over 2 feet tall. The skunk is about 1 foot tall, but is by far budding the most. The bubblegum kush is about 14" tall and still growing, and is budding 2nd most. All the other plants are just now showing pistols and white hairs. ( Maybe they are budding slower because i germinated all them from seed, where as the skunk and kush were clones when i got them?)
Pic 1 - all from above
Pic 2 - 2 new females
Pic 3 & 4- All plants
( 2 big plants on left are caramelicious and 1st unknown, the middle plants are new females, and plants on right are skunk and kush)
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dopeedogg
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Day 30 flowering
First off i wanna clear something up. Only 2 plants are actually in day 30 of flowering.(Skunk and Bubbglegum). The other plants are 1 and 2 weeks behind, because theese are the newer plants i put in after i found the males.
Also, i did some upgrading a couple days ago. I moved up to a digital 600watt air cooled system. I have an air cooled hood and a 430cfm exhaust fan cooling the light. I have 6'' ducting on the hood. The open end of the duct is on the floor in the middle, kinda snaked between the flower pots.
This sucks cold air from underneath the door to help cool the grow room and aslo sucks air off the floor to cool the light itself. This all gets sucked up and vented straight into the attic. This actually works pretty good. Average temps with lights on, 83 give or take.
First off i wanna clear something up. Only 2 plants are actually in day 30 of flowering.(Skunk and Bubbglegum). The other plants are 1 and 2 weeks behind, because theese are the newer plants i put in after i found the males.
Also, i did some upgrading a couple days ago. I moved up to a digital 600watt air cooled system. I have an air cooled hood and a 430cfm exhaust fan cooling the light. I have 6'' ducting on the hood. The open end of the duct is on the floor in the middle, kinda snaked between the flower pots.
This sucks cold air from underneath the door to help cool the grow room and aslo sucks air off the floor to cool the light itself. This all gets sucked up and vented straight into the attic. This actually works pretty good. Average temps with lights on, 83 give or take.
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Uncle Ben
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You asked for my advice. I'm going to tell what you're doing wrong so don't get pissed if you hear something you don't want to hear. 
No domes, 20/4 for the photoperiod.
Towels and peat pucks = bad move. Germinate directly in soil in a pot at least 6" tall.
No domes, 20/4 for the photoperiod.
Uncle Ben
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Water well (no need to meaure) when the plants need it. Those pots are too big and will not support a healthy root system.
So what's the NPK values?
And what if the plant doesn't need full strength or needs more salts? You apply plant food according to plant needs, not some regiment someone gave you. He is not the master of your garden and does not have a clue.
Then go to a transition week, where u add a little of the bloom and uncle jon's blend, and reduce the grow solution.
Plants are dynamic. If you don't understand nutrients and what makes a plant tick, those charts are useless. They are a crutch to the noob, an aide to the vendor to increase sales and dependency.
I doubt it the plants were acclimated to such light unless the CFL's were right on them. If they start turning yellow, you've got problems.Today I took out the CF bulbs and put the 400 watt HPS in. I have it hanging about 18" from the tops of the plants. I have the light on a timer set 12 hours on, and 12 hours off.
Nice.
Good luck,
UB
Uncle Ben
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So for veg they are basically seeing a 4-.5-3. Kinda light but if it sustains growth, you do what you have to do.Thanks for the advice, thats the most anybody has responded! ha ha.
The NPK values are:
Grow = 2-1-6
Micro = 6-0-0
Bloom = 0-6-5
uncle jons blend = 0-0-2
plant amp =1% Ca
Uncle Ben
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Learn to read your plants, not charts.Thanks for the advice man. What do u think about the flowering cycle? Should i increase the nutes a little too?
dopeedogg
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Well, I hope I don't sound too dumb, but how exactly do I read my plants?all I know is when the leaves start to droop, they need water. But I'm not sure about what nutes to add more of, or use less of. For example, if the leaves are curling like taco shells, it could be too much calcium or whatever, so use less calcium in my nute mixture. This is what I have a hard time understanding. I've looked on all blogs here but they all just say the same thing, learn to read what your plants need, or keep researching this site. If it's too hard to explain, it's cool I understand. But I really do appreciate the comments u have left so far. Thanks again.
Uncle Ben
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Using leaf color, vigor, structure as a gauge. Comes with experience.
Not necessarily. Most times it's because the root system is the pits (small, unhealthy). If you don't have a robust root system, then you don't have a potential for proper water uptake which will be reflected by droopy leaves. That's one read down.....10 to go.
Or, could be too much salts in solution. See my sig link. If you give your plants a well balanced food with all of the 16 essential elements, they will be fine. A one-in-all, value priced, high quality product is Dyna-Gro.
Your welcome.
dopeedogg
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What causes stunted growth? Was it because I had shitty lights to veg with, or maybe cuz I transplanted them from outside and inmediatley threw them into 12/12?( the new females)
I was looking at that Dyna-gro brand, it really is inexpensive. I'm almost out of nutes, I was wondering, can I buy the dyno-gro nutes and finish my plants with that? Or should I stick to the same nutes the entire grow? Also, if I do use the Dyno-gro, do I need any other nutes to mix with it, or is the dyno-gro(bloom) all I need? ( since now I'm in 12/12)
thanks, e-dog
I was looking at that Dyna-gro brand, it really is inexpensive. I'm almost out of nutes, I was wondering, can I buy the dyno-gro nutes and finish my plants with that? Or should I stick to the same nutes the entire grow? Also, if I do use the Dyno-gro, do I need any other nutes to mix with it, or is the dyno-gro(bloom) all I need? ( since now I'm in 12/12)
thanks, e-dog
x420xTeXaN
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ur plants look awesome bro... wait another week or soo the buds should POP!!
Uncle Ben
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Lack of N, improper lighting, watering, fertilizers....take your pick.
Salts are salts. You really need to do some homework regarding plant nutrition. Brand of nutes doesn't matter as long as they are of high quality and your plants are getting the 16 essential elements.
Take a look at the specs at the Dyna-Gro site.
UB
dopeedogg
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Here is another picture update.
pic 1 = all plants
pic 2 =the bubblegum kush
pic 3 = the skunk
pic 4 = skunk close up
pic 5 = caramelicious
pic 6 = big unknown bag seed
pic 7 = big unknown (this plant grew taller than my light, so i topped it, now it looks like 4 main colas starting)
pic 1 = all plants
pic 2 =the bubblegum kush
pic 3 = the skunk
pic 4 = skunk close up
pic 5 = caramelicious
pic 6 = big unknown bag seed
pic 7 = big unknown (this plant grew taller than my light, so i topped it, now it looks like 4 main colas starting)
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dopeedogg
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OK, so the skunk and bubble gum will be ready in about 1 or 2 weeks. I am checking with a pocket microscope daily to see what color the trichs are. I like to harvest when 50%-70% of the trichs are amber.
The other plants will be ready in about 3 weeks give or take. One Plant turned out to be a hermie, i saw a couple "balls" and pollon on the leaves. So I threw that transvestite out side. I hope it didn't screw my other plants up.
The other plants will be ready in about 3 weeks give or take. One Plant turned out to be a hermie, i saw a couple "balls" and pollon on the leaves. So I threw that transvestite out side. I hope it didn't screw my other plants up.
