----400 watt mh/hps grow- LA CHEESE / BLUE VENOM / SLH / PINEAPPLE HINDU KUSH----

kevin murphy

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you can put them in flower anytime mate but up the time to 24/7 if you want to put them in flower this weekend ootherwise let them go another week and yea more veg the better but i vegged mine outside for 48 days now there in my flower tent on day 6 12/12 and no white hairs yet..its your opinion that matters the most mate so it totlly down to u..i would leave em another week but this weekend theres not much difference so i say switch to 12/12 on sunday...excellent update..they have grown rapid..rep given..
 

mazand1982

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you can put them in flower anytime mate but up the time to 24/7 if you want to put them in flower this weekend ootherwise let them go another week and yea more veg the better but i vegged mine outside for 48 days now there in my flower tent on day 6 12/12 and no white hairs yet..its your opinion that matters the most mate so it totlly down to u..i would leave em another week but this weekend theres not much difference so i say switch to 12/12 on sunday...excellent update..they have grown rapid..rep given..

thansk alot big kevin, thats cool of you for the rep, its crazy buddy, i was just looking at the wimpy asss seedlings from 8-11 and scrolled to 8-13 and then the pics from tonight (8-15) and its a WORLD of differnce to me as well, i think its the flora nova VEG nutrients for sure!, i did a 1/4 strength feeding and then about a 1/2 strength on sunday and they got droopy and over watered but now they have evaporated a tiny bit and perked up huge and fat from the last feeding, im stoked.... so its funny ytou say to switch to 24/7 if i want to UP THE SPEED cause if done 24/7 then i tried 20/4 last grow and now im 18/6 and i alllmost think they like that dark period more and grow faster when the light is off for that period (plus it helps with the temps during the day while im at work...they turn off at 11AM-5PM as of right now).....but then again i have to be honest and say im not 100% percent sure its faster, so you think the more light the better?????...maybe ill go to 20/4 and see what happens?... so yea man, i think fuck it, by this sunday these little monsters will ATLEAST have another inch or two of height growth and a few more internodes also, fuck it... well see, amybe by sunday ill wann go a little bit longer, who knows.... so im sure u obviously have grown from seed kevin and that scool that you think they have grown fast too... to me if i look at the pics from 8-11 and then today its almost like different plants all together...
 

kevin murphy

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they look well different and this is my only 3rd grow since march lol have a indoor and outdoor right now and had grown 64 plants on my first ever grow lol..thought fuck it if gunna grow grow big lol..not everyones cup of tea but its just the way i do things and as for 24/7 20/4 18/6 thereas so much debate on how they grow its anyones guess but the way i see it the more light hours the more photosythesis meaning more gowth..the dark hours are for root growth and sugar breakdown/production i think..20/4 should be right ,ull see a huge difference by sunday ill be here waiting for pics aswell lol..
 

mr.bond

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hey maz bro,

the pic update is looking great! those nutes you added helped quite a bit, seeing a nice lush green color, no burn or curling, even growth... she's agonna be candy! i would also like to offer a different opinion if thats alright. i would maintain the light cycle on 18/6 for the duration of veg. i personally feel it is important to achieve good root growth and lateral branching and good sugar production in those dark periods, given the size of the pot you are using. a stable root system is key to stress-free flowering, and lateral branching kicks into higher gear after the tap roots have found the bottom. you're likely to experience more of this if you veg a bit longer. i have also seen longer light cycles cause stretch in plants of the same strain and i know you want to keep it short. strain aside, id say maintaining optimum light coverage and temperature control are your best bets in minimizing stretch. also, about when to put it into flower... a plant wont flower until it is mature enough, even if it is in a 12/12 light cycle. switching to a 12/12 cycle prematurely will kind of rush it into finishing up veg so that it can start the transition to flower. this can cause stress, which can in turn cause a hermi especially during the sensitive transition phase. a safe way to tell if the plant is ready for flower is to look at the nodes of your plants. right now each pair of internodes seem to be parallel with each other. when they start to stagger internodes instead of being parallel with each other, this is a sign of maturity. it typically takes at least 4 weeks. an issue ive noticed with seeds to watch out for, theyre leaves can get pretty massive, especially variants of indica. your 4 seeds look a lot like the master kush seeds i have. once they start fighting for space with their water and fan leaves, theyre gonna want to stretch big time... you might try and keep the big ass leaves tucked under the newer growth until you are ready to flower. what kind of plant are you going for? do you want like large single colas? some moderate nugs? lots of popcorn buds? were you going to do any training to them?

anyway just my two cents.... hope ur having a good week so far maz bro

peace homz

mr.bond
 

mazand1982

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hey maz bro,

the pic update is looking great! those nutes you added helped quite a bit, seeing a nice lush green color, no burn or curling, even growth... she's agonna be candy! i would also like to offer a different opinion if thats alright. i would maintain the light cycle on 18/6 for the duration of veg. i personally feel it is important to achieve good root growth and lateral branching and good sugar production in those dark periods, given the size of the pot you are using. a stable root system is key to stress-free flowering, and lateral branching kicks into higher gear after the tap roots have found the bottom. you're likely to experience more of this if you veg a bit longer. i have also seen longer light cycles cause stretch in plants of the same strain and i know you want to keep it short. strain aside, id say maintaining optimum light coverage and temperature control are your best bets in minimizing stretch. also, about when to put it into flower... a plant wont flower until it is mature enough, even if it is in a 12/12 light cycle. switching to a 12/12 cycle prematurely will kind of rush it into finishing up veg so that it can start the transition to flower. this can cause stress, which can in turn cause a hermi especially during the sensitive transition phase. a safe way to tell if the plant is ready for flower is to look at the nodes of your plants. right now each pair of internodes seem to be parallel with each other. when they start to stagger internodes instead of being parallel with each other, this is a sign of maturity. it typically takes at least 4 weeks. an issue ive noticed with seeds to watch out for, theyre leaves can get pretty massive, especially variants of indica. your 4 seeds look a lot like the master kush seeds i have. once they start fighting for space with their water and fan leaves, theyre gonna want to stretch big time... you might try and keep the big ass leaves tucked under the newer growth until you are ready to flower. what kind of plant are you going for? do you want like large single colas? some moderate nugs? lots of popcorn buds? were you going to do any training to them?

anyway just my two cents.... hope ur having a good week so far maz bro

peace homz

mr.bond

thats great advice bondfizzle, i like what both you and kevin have said and i think you guys are right, i shouldnt rush it, in the past 2 days they have grown so fast whats another week or two, then ready or not it will be 4ish weeks and ill be stoked that i vegged them long enough, that way i can limit my chances of stress and hermie.... i want some big chunky monkey nugs, rawr!!!!!...LOL....thanks for the tips guys.
 

mazand1982

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UPDATE...


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mazand1982

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UPDATE...


hey team, all is well and i have a great job interview on friday morning, ill probably be making an easy $300-400 a day on insurance labor commision daily, straight pumped up....wish me the best...


anyways, maybe soon ill be able to start smokin again,LOL...so ive taken some pics of the little monsters, i figure i can take pics every 2 days since people seem interested. oh by the way, i dunno if anyone remembers but i have an LA CHEESE and BLUE VENOM plant outside, they are FINALLY starting to have some pistel clusters and i watered them today, i dont want my neighbors seein me take pictures of plants in my backyard so ill send pics of those soon enough, when they look like they are starting to bud more...


so as far as the 4 pineapple hindu kush plants and the one feminized super lemon haze...


here is the super lemon haze, has grown 2 inches in 2 days which i think is great..HPIM1452.jpgHPIM1451.jpg

and heres some pics of the 4 NON FEMINIZED seedlings (pineapple hindu kush)...they have all grown as well, maybe only an inch or 1.5 inches in 2 days though...HPIM1446.jpgHPIM1450.jpgHPIM1449.jpgHPIM1445.jpg

and heres a pic of the whole wolfpack...HPIM1454.jpgHPIM1453.jpg


so what do you guys think???....im still trying to flower asap but i dont wanna stress no one....any opinions?...im steady looking for preflowers and/or alternating nodes, nuthin yet....
 

mazand1982

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UPDATE.......................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



attention everyone, say your gopodbyes cause this is the l;ast picture your gonna see of these beautiful strong healthy green plants, they got theyre last feeding of full strength VEG nutes yesterday and they will be going into flowering stage as of tomorrow morning...i am really happy with how much they have grown and whether they are 100% ready or not i feel that they are getting a good size and im at a point where id be stoked on 3-5 small bushy fat budded plants, ive get the 400 watt MH real close and they havent stretched at all and they look very very healthy to me. here are some glamour shots of the little monsters and i think the pics came out good and you can see the strong green in them. hope you enjoy....
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one picture has my hand in it for size comparison...HPIM1465.jpg
 

mazand1982

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UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!......


attention all you players and pimps, i have some great news, its day 2 of flowering and ive used my hawkeye abilities and found the first pistels on one of the 4 non-feminized PINEAPPLE HINDU KUSH plants...and even better news is that its the biggest plant of all, i was almost positive this one was gonna be a male but i looked super close and seen the one and only first sign of female sex out of the whole cabinet...maybe there is more but ill know by tomorrow or so...ch ch ch ch ch check it out!!HPIM1477.jpg


other than that everyone is super healthy and they all just got theyre first watering of 1/4 strength FLORA NOVA BLOOM nutrients and a baby shot of KOOLBLOOM powder for the PK boost your momma warned you about! lol...needless to say im pretty pumped up and the rest of the gang is sure to follow with some signs of female sex...the PHK with the pistels showing is the plant on the bottom right, the big one (an awesome MOM candidate for sure)...anyways, the SUPER LEMON HAZE is in the back right and she is feminized and should show signs of sex in a day or two since she is older than everyone else...heres some more pics of the wolfpack right before the HPS 400 turned on...HPIM1473.jpgHPIM1474.jpgHPIM1476.jpgHPIM1472.jpgHPIM1475.jpg
 

NatureaFinest

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Wassup big dawg! Plants r lookn great bro. I bet ur really happy to start flowering. Kinda shocks me the tallest is the first female for sure. Excellent work. +rep
 

mazand1982

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Wassup big dawg! Plants r lookn great bro. I bet ur really happy to start flowering. Kinda shocks me the tallest is the first female for sure. Excellent work. +rep
thanks big nature, yea dude finally, but its cool because the la cheese and blue venom out are also starting to form tiny little buds everywhere and they should as well produce pretty good. ill update with some pics on them later but the nugs are about the size of a pea or so...soon enough....
 

NatureaFinest

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Hell yea. I forgot bout the other 2. I bet they're monsters now. That reminds me. I'm ordering some beans this wkend. I'm gon comp a blue venom and raw diesel from g13. I'm stuck on a barneys farm choice tho maybe ull help. Should I get LSD, pineapple chunk, top dawg, or sweet tooth? I'm thinkn the pc since urs didn't pop but idk. Which would u go with man
 

mr.bond

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Nature how about Barney's Tangerine Dream? I've heard its wicked. Hey Maz! Looking sweet bro, glad to see theres a chick in the group so far. Wish I could write more but I have to run out for work... cheers buddy, I'll stop by later...

mr. bond
 

mazand1982

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Hell yea. I forgot bout the other 2. I bet they're monsters now. That reminds me. I'm ordering some beans this wkend. I'm gon comp a blue venom and raw diesel from g13. I'm stuck on a barneys farm choice tho maybe ull help. Should I get LSD, pineapple chunk, top dawg, or sweet tooth? I'm thinkn the pc since urs didn't pop but idk. Which would u go with man
i dunno much about all the different seed varieties these days bigdog but i sure wish that fuckin PC would have popped bro, that sounded excellent!
 

Metasynth

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Hey dawg, you just switched to flower, and I just switched to flower...you're using 400w HPS and I'm using 400W hps, your plants are pretty much the same size as mine...It'll be fun to see how this plays out...Sorry to come it last minute and ask a stupid question, how big are those pots?
 

mazand1982

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Hey dawg, you just switched to flower, and I just switched to flower...you're using 400w HPS and I'm using 400W hps, your plants are pretty much the same size as mine...It'll be fun to see how this plays out...Sorry to come it last minute and ask a stupid question, how big are those pots?
hey bro its all good, im kinda curious myself also...i have the 5 plants in square black plastic pots, either 2 or 2.5 gallon, cant remember but they are 9 inches tall and the opening on top is a 8 inch square. the super lemon haze is 11.5 inches tall and the average heighth for the other 4 pineapple hindu kush plants are 8.5 inches tall, i would have liked an even canopy but fuck it...the slh is a lil older then the other plants...everyone is from seed and the only feminized plant is the slh, so ill probably be having a couple less plants in the next few days....can i see some pics of your set up, plants????
 
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