400 watt HPS sog yields?

Hey gang, I am making the switch from CFLs to HPS, I currently run a Dr. Bud style perpetual SOG with CFLs. I've gotten great yields off this system and as I make the transition into better lighting, I would like to keep a similar system but with bigger plants.
What I plan is:
Strains: Grape Ape, Pure Power Plant, Northern Lights
12x1 gallon smart pots
,organic soil supplemented with Earth Juice teas,
perpetually harvesting 4 plants every 25 days.

I'm pretty good at keeping a consistent system, as I've done the 3 groups of plants harvesting one every 25 days for the last 15 months or so. Anyway, I am currently getting about 7-10 grams off 1 liter containers. I am hoping to get around an ounce per plant with 1 gallons, but I have no way of knowing if that is an attainable goal. With a 400 watt HPS supplemented with about 100 watts CFLs for side lighting, is this possible? I have looked and looked for a grow journal that does a SOG with 1 gallons under similar lighting but I can't find much. Basically I am looking for someone with experience to tell me (or ideally, prove to me empirically) if my goals are too high, or are realistically attainable.

For a 400W hps setup, I'd just grow one strain, the pure power plant.

I'm curious to know what people are getting regardless of all our different styles and strains.

Post you average per Sq foot recent yeild .

My 4x4 tent was 48.76 grams/Sqft

On my first grow in my 4x4 tent with a 400w hps I got 5 1/2 ounces of 2 plants. 1 plant was 4ounces and the other was 1 1/2. I was using 5 gallon buckets (sorry not 1gallon) but just trying to give you an idea. I'm starting on my second grow soon

Good looking crop! Especially for a 1st one. DWC buckets are the shit; however, I am, and probably will always be a soil man. I just love getting my hands in the dirt, ya know?

Here's my logic: If I am getting between 7-10 grams per plant off a 1 liter container under CFLS, If I triple the size of the pot, I should, theoretically, tripple the yiled? Adding the HPS over the CFLs will certainly help too. Is my logic flawed?

GeorgiaOkeefe said:

Hey gang, I am making the switch from CFLs to HPS, I currently run a Dr. Bud style perpetual SOG with CFLs. I've gotten great yields off this system and as I make the transition into better lighting, I would like to keep a similar system but with bigger plants.
What I plan is:
Strains: Grape Ape, Pure Power Plant, Northern Lights
12x1 gallon smart pots
,organic soil supplemented with Earth Juice teas,
perpetually harvesting 4 plants every 25 days.

I'm pretty good at keeping a consistent system, as I've done the 3 groups of plants harvesting one every 25 days for the last 15 months or so. Anyway, I am currently getting about 7-10 grams off 1 liter containers. I am hoping to get around an ounce per plant with 1 gallons, but I have no way of knowing if that is an attainable goal. With a 400 watt HPS supplemented with about 100 watts CFLs for side lighting, is this possible? I have looked and looked for a grow journal that does a SOG with 1 gallons under similar lighting but I can't find much. Basically I am looking for someone with experience to tell me (or ideally, prove to me empirically) if my goals are too high, or are realistically attainable.

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You are probably looking at 0.5-1 oz a plant in 1 gallon pots

i have a 2x2 tent with a 400w hps and i think i will yield atleast 6 oz. tjis is with 2 plants in a tiny space. with 12 plants and enough space i could easily yield a half lb per cucle.

You will probably get 3/4th-1 ounce per plant....I am curious though. You say SOG, but if you are throwing clones into flower right after they root in a Doc Bud manner, 1 gallon is a waste of space. Why not use 2 liters and get 10-14 grams and put 4 per sq foot? In a 2x2 with single cola style you could theoretically yield 160 grams and get two harvests per 1 normal grow cycle. That would be more along the lines of DocBud. He also used Hempy, which is a GREAT choice for SOG.

I don't want to mess with that many plants anymore. I am gonna veg them for about a week or so, depending on strain, which I do with the 1 liters anyway. I am gonna do some two liters just to try them but I don't want to water them that frequently, to be honest. I want to stay in organic soil, but Hempy is really cool and I have seen great results. If i can get the 3/4-1oz per plant I will be happy. I might do a few strains (like the high yielding PPP) in 2 liters and keep my NL and grape ape in 1 gallons.

Going from 1ltr, to 1 gal, will not increase your yield. Your veg time has to increase to increase plant size.

I could be off my mark but if your not locking out your roots in a 1ltr, then a 1 gal could stunt your growth if you aren't allowing the plant to veg long enough to build a proper root ball in the 1gal.

GeorgiaOkeefe said:

Good looking crop! Especially for a 1st one. DWC buckets are the shit; however, I am, and probably will always be a soil man. I just love getting my hands in the dirt, ya know?

Here's my logic: If I am getting between 7-10 grams per plant off a 1 liter container under CFLS, If I triple the size of the pot, I should, theoretically, tripple the yiled? Adding the HPS over the CFLs will certainly help too. Is my logic flawed?

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Thanks man.

I know its not what you want to hear but like an above post said you'll have to increase your bucket size and veg time to have a more noticeable yield gain. With you being on a cycle where you veg every 25 days increasing your veg time could be a headache. How long do you usually veg for?

You veg for a WEEK IN 1 LITERS? Jeez, you must be getting g root bound EVERYTIME! If you are doing anything less than 1 gallon, just put the clones straight into flower as soon as they show root. I do, and by week 2 they have filled up the space.

Edit* but yeah like they said above me^ you will notnses increased yield if you do not veg for longer. Pot size and veg time go hand in hand really

I guess I should have been more specific. On some strains in 1 liters I veg for up to a week, others I just give them a few days. It just depends on the height of the cut when I flower. With the 1 gallons I do plan on a longer veg time (I have started taking cuts earlier to account for the extra time). In any case, I do plan on a longer veg time for the 1 gallons as opposed to the 1 liters. I don't know if I am rootbound or not, I get decent yields off it but I did notice a drop from the 2 liter to the 1 liter in terms of yield, I could just fit more plants in the cabinet I was using at the time. Since I've got more space I've been doing 2 liters again and They've been doing well, Haven't chopped any yet so can't compare for sure though.

For NL and Grape Ape I veg for about a week (until they're about 6 inches in height) and then flip them. I've been trying to let my bonsai mums grow bigger to get bigger clones so I can cut down on the veg time.

For Blue Mystic (phasing this strain out) and PPP I veg for about 3-5 days, and flower at 4 inches. (this is all under 400 watts CFLs)

I plan on doing about a week veg for PPP and 7-10 days for NL and GA once I get the HPS going and I start doing everything in 1 gallons.

around 6 zips for the SoG in 5.5 inch containers 12/12 from seed. and around 7 zips for 3 plants in 3-5 gallon containers 4 week veg from seed.