4 White widow from seed in soil under 600watts

I water until I see some come out the bottom every 2 days, and then feed every other watering. You can just about look at the soil to see if it needs water or not. Use you best judgement. I was told it is good for the plant to need water, better than too much. They say the roots will stretch and grow better if it has to look for water a little. I would say feed twice a week, but these are doing good, Why fix if not broke. I might add, stick something in between pan and grow pot, need to let air get to the bottom of grow medium. This will keep bud rot and mildew, mold away. I use little blocks of wood (2) 2x2 about 6 in. long, the move plant around after a few weeks to let air get to the places wood was sitting.Also don't be scared to prune off some of the folage, let light and air get to budsites. I didn't prune at all or very little on my first 2 grows. Half the plant was popcorn buds. I pruned the hell out of these two and 3/4 of the popcorn buds are a good 2 in. and still 3 weeks left. Pruning is something I did alot of reading on. You have to start out gradually. Don't pluck the shit out of it on first time.


Some of my info. might not be 100% correct, I'm just telling you what is working for me. There are some people on this board, that will come in and try to discredit people, because they think they know it all. I'm just trying to help, hope it does.

Also on the watering, I have read and noticed myself, The plant will use more water during flower, then during veg. Once you see my pic's, It will give you an idea on the amount I'm using. I water every 2 days, 1 gal. per pot. Sometimes I let it go to 3 days sometimes. Not very often in flower though. Pick up plant when wet, then pick up when dry and you will be able to tell alot of difference. If water runs straight down the sides as soon as you put it in. You waited to long and roots have locked, If that happens just put more dirt around the insides of container along the edges, then concentrate on watering on the center of container. Until roots spread a little. I use big potato sacks, under the guise more roots will be healthier plant. Never heard of watering once a week, so it might be good to change that.

I'm going to go ahead and post pics. I will remove them in a couple of days, so not to ruin YOUR journal. The first pic is pruned alot, come harvest I should only be pulling about 10 fan leaves or so. The second on I pruned, but only about half, because I didn't know if pruning alot like I did on 1st plant would ruin it. From now on I will be pruning alot. These two are at 45 days flower. They were tied down during veg. only. Plants grows at an angle, which allows all side branches to come striaght up. I don't know how clear you can see it, but the lowest branch on first plant has about a 5 to 6" cola growing up. If plant was not tied down, the lower 1/4 to 1/2 is all popcorn. Something you might try on next grow. Did you take some clones off this? Time to do it is now, before it get to late. I always pull clones about 1 week into flower.

i found it depends on lots of factors ... i used 3 gallon pots and found i needed to water every 3-4 days ... its better to water when they need it rather then stick to a rota that might lead to over watering (i've been quilty of that) ... but as i said it was roughly 4 days between watering for me (i've not grown out ww though)

yes i have noticed my plants using a lot more water in flower than veg, twice as much i think. I only water them when they ask for it, when they start getting a little sad. leaves droopie.
guys btw i dont think if you noticed but im using those fiber pots so water just goes right through. I think i will start watering every 4 days and i realized the inline fan i have is 500 cfm, which is wayyyyy too much for my lil tent. so i will be getting another one and get it exchanged for something smaller cfm. because its a bitch keeping the temps steady since it just sucks up all the heat and the heaters keep running all the time.

The water shouldn't run straight through. If it does, that means the roots have pulled the dirt away from the sides, try adding more soil and let it fall down the sides and water slowly only at center of plant. I'm only saying this, because from prev. post, you said you were doing it once a week. I have waited too long and water went straight through, even with the plastic bags I'm using now. Water was getting costly so I tried to see if I could go 4 or 5 days and it harden up the medium. Roots seemed to grab it and was sqeezing it into a solid shape.

How many gal. are your pots?
On the intake and outtakes fans, I made the mistake of intake 225cfm and outake at 440,,,lol Just wasn't thinking, I turned it on and came back 2 hrs later and both plants looked like hell. Every leaf on it was drooping bad. Sucked all the air out of the box,,,lol
For the winter, I just went with 2 inlines about 200cfm, Just a small breeze coming in and going out. Heater runs some, but not as bad. Not sure on my cfm ratings but they are close. I forgot to mention my box is in an unheated garage, box has heat. but intake pushes in 30 to 40 degree air. But with a low cfm you can stick your hand in front of intake and barely feel it.

My pots are 5 Gallons and the new fan I ordered is 250cfm and plus my basement isn't heated at all so the temps in there are 30-40. And why were ur plants drooping.

Great thread man. I grew a white widow 2 years ago, it was a great smoke and definitely something I'd like to grow again! I remember having some issues with N deficiency early on too. I just now read through all your posts on this grow. Sucks about the heater mishap, but like was stated, they are weeds and have a tendency to survive just about anything! Last year I was growing a a Neville's haze and 3 weeks into flower I decided she was growing too tall so I tried tying her down. In the process I was a little too aggressive with tying and snapped the main stem! A little masking tape and support to hold her back up and she ended up being fine and even yielded 3oz for me. I think most of us do stupid shit from time to time, but as long as you're attentive to your ladies daily through the entire grow, things have a way of working out just fine in the end. Your ladies look wonderful, great journal man, it makes me miss my WW smoke.

Plants were drooping, because I had 440 cfm on my fan going out of box and only 225 coming in. I think I sucked all the air out of room,,,,lol
I also noticed what I think is mold, cut off a bud that I think had white mold on it. Hope it don't spread to the rest of plant or worse both plants.
On your intake, I would put the most cfms for intake. Common sense if outake is higher you will be leaving no air in the box. I'm thinking that is what happened in my case.

I really think it might be something else the reason ur plants got droopy, because im pretty sure im in the same boat when it comes to negative pressure. my tent is sucked inside all the way.
btw are you talking about mold on your plants or mine?? confused lol

Also i pruned the heck out of them, took pretty good amounts of fan leaves off so better light penetration.
Did i over do it?

WEEK 2 DAY 3 FLOWER

I don't think you did bad on pruning, but it is suppose to start during veg, gradually taking more off during flower. I would stop or slow down. Maybe just pick off a few a day. I may have found the downside to pruning alot. My plant that I pruned alot, has mold. I cut off the two branches that had it on them. And I will spray with power wash in am. Should get rid of it until harvest. Mighty wash and power wash are two things you should invest in. Have had to use Mighty Wash on first grow for mites. Worked great. I used it on second grow for precaution. And on this grow I noticed mites about 1 week into flower, Very few though, I inspect my plants daily, every inch of them. Sprayed it down with mighty wash, havent seen a mite since. Also the 2 branches I cut off. The buds were wetter than the last 5 plants I harvested. Like a wet sponge. Just thought that was odd. 1st time pruning that much and was thinking maybe buds getting too much water since fan leaves are gone.

I don't want to ruin your journal by talking about my plants. But after some thought, you should hope I do,,lol The more I talk about mine, means yours is doing good. Should only see pic's of progression. I was reading today and it was said that mold is common for indoor winter grows unless air circulation is perfect. I'm not perfect at anything, so mold is a givin. 47 days in now, bout 2 weeks left. maybe 3. I picked at 10% amber lastime 7 1/2 weeks. I'm going to try and wait for 30% amber tricombs before I pick these two.

yea i dont think i will be pruning that much anymore. just a enough to get good light to the buds and why would the plants get mold if they are pruned a lot, im thinking pruning might help with air circulation since theyre arent many big fan leaves blocking the air.
And go ahead and post pictures of ur babies man, no worries,
BTW i was looking around and saw this temp controller and it detects day/night automatically which is pretty slick.
Will defiantly invest in this next time because its kinda hard to keep temps stable in that damn tent man, i have to constantly mess around with my heaters.

edit: you got a journal going yourself? if you do, post the link in here. i wanna check it out...

five starred.

Sick grow man... I'm working on my first grow with two Auto's (AK49 from vision & Bubblelicious from nirvana), 2.5 weeks in it and going good, hoping mine getting pretty like yours. Best of Luck!

Gave them water today with nutes, ph has been the same the whole grow, 6.5, I havent flushed for the past 3 watering, should i flush on the next one?

2 Weeks 5 days

Here is a link to my first grow and part of second. I jusy put up pictures of the mold and people are saying dump the plant. Only a week left!!!!!!!!!!! plus the other one is in danger of being thrown away. I doubt that I will, but it makes ya feel like shit even thinking about it.
On your flush, my advise would be no, they are doing good. I would wait till about 4 weeks . Then flush about 5 days before harvest. Normally I transplant between veg and flower, instead of flushing. Then flush about week 7. But I use about 3 times the soil you use, so my advise might be shit. Mine being in bigger pots will last a little longer before nuet lock.
I did see a video where instead of flushing 5 days before finished, just wait till finished and chop plant and set base in a vase or something with plain water. let sit for a day or so until all the water is gone.


https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/524437-1st-ever-grow-1st-ever.html

How are they doing man?
Update on the flushing, Instead of using 3x water. Get this stuff called Final Phase from Advance nuetrients. Just add to your water on last week or so of grow. Then feed nothing but water after that. Trying that now, will let ya know the outcome.

WEEK 3 DAY 3 into FLOWER

Looking good.
I just cut up my second plant. Noticable powder mold on lower leaves, none on bud leaves. 40X times it and nothing but tricombs. Going to nuke box and room with something powerful. Any suggestions from anyone? I was thinking fugiflor, but since the room is empty, I was thinking something stronger. Kill every living thing in the room,,,,lol. Mites were a small problem at one time too. So a (kill all) would be nice.

Shipman1 said:

Looking good.
I just cut up my second plant. Noticable powder mold on lower leaves, none on bud leaves. 40X times it and nothing but tricombs. Going to nuke box and room with something powerful. Any suggestions from anyone? I was thinking fugiflor, but since the room is empty, I was thinking something stronger. Kill every living thing in the room,,,,lol. Mites were a small problem at one time too. So a (kill all) would be nice.

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I had a PM issue this time last year. Temps got too low at night I think. Noticed the powder on leaves in week 4-5. Used pm wash and trimmed leaves. A month later, at harvest, I threw over 20 3ft tall plants in the trash. The mold starts in the roots and stem and works towards the leaves and flowers. Once you got it, you got it.
To clean the room and bucket system I used Eagle 20. It's a 24 oz bottle I think. Highly concentrated. Illegal to sell in some states, but I would get my hands on some if you can.
Nice looking white widows in this thread. Just harvested my first widows and I'm glad I took about 20 clones from them. cant wait to smoke it

I will check on eagle 20