Yeah well according to Lowlife These things only get about 12-14 inches but the bud is suppose to be rock hard also they say these will start flowering soon as roots touch down and will finish 8 weeks from seed......well they are 31-32 days old and are just starting to preflower.....so by their time line these should be done in 3 1/2 weeks......but no way are they even close to the time line like you said a strong 8 week flower period and they will be done so that makes this a 90 day strain by my calculations