3rd grow only getting 20g per plant after its dried

lil poted

Member
Hi im just wanting some advice about trying to improve my yield ive done 3sets of 9plants in bio bizz all mix soil in 11L pots with a 600w hps lamp and vegged for 4wks with 2x125w cfl and used canna nutes advice would be appreciated
 

lil poted

Member
The strains are double berry and o.g kush growing in a 3ft wide 4ft long and approw 5ft high room temp is around 25 degrees the feeding scheme is water feed water feed. Just let me no what else you need to no mate cheers
 

bigbull52

Active Member
What type of soil? I'm assuming 25 degrees is celcius? That might b to cold. Not sure of celcius to F...
 

SiliconeBud

Active Member
25C = 77F so no problem there.

Still need more info than what you provided. ex. How long are you flowering for, size and number of nodes on the plant? But even with this info it's going to be a game of 20 questions for a bit.

Do you have a grow journal with pics? That may help people give some advice on what to do better next time.


Cheers
- SB -
 

dragongrow

Member
What size room have you got, fans, extraction, what size were they when you flipped? What strain are you growing? We need this info before we can help.

I got 19oz crispy bone dry bubblegum off a 600w with 4plants in a 1.2 x1.2 this could of still been improved on, but this means nothing unless i told you that I grew in coco/perlite and biobiz mix (60/20/20) in 11ltr square pots, i vegged for about 8weeks under 600w, topping, supercropping and training, i also took around 150 cuttings from these monsters, they were around 5foot when flipped and finished just under 6. These were were also lollipopped and slightly defoliated throughout. I used canna a and b throughout, with cannazyme, pk, big bud, bud candy, carboload and ripen, its not my grow diary so wont go to indepth!

Ive now got 8 in the same space but only expecting around 2oz off each plant because they were flipped at around 10 inches with a bit of topping through veg to produce a scrog, originally i had 11 in there but ripped out 3 becuase 1 hermied - the 3were all the same strain grown from seed and didnt want to risk any more trannys - lesson learned though dont scrog with an unknown strain, dont put them at the back and dint put so many in there!!

Back to the point in hand though IMO It all depends how long you veg them for and under what light to determine yield, now before i get slammed for this comment of course environment, strain etc come into it but simply, the longer the veg, the bigger the plant, the bigger the yield - simples.

I typically veg for around 6/7weeks under a 125w cfl in a small cutting tent. This sounds long but by the time i put them in the flower room they will only stand around 8inches with Loads of nodes, they get reppoted into final pot but they still need vegging for at least 2wks under a 600w before i switch to let them get used to the environment change and to get their feet in their new home.

Depending on the method im trying, sog, scrog, 4plants, 1monster etc depends how long i veg before flip, as i said the last grow was vegged for 8wks but this was under a 600 i didnt count the time under the cfl which was around 4weeks. So in reality they recieved around 3mths / 12 weeks veg in total
Now you see the more info you provide the more we can help!

Im by no means an expert and everybody learns something new about this wonderfull plant everyday but without knowledge and sharing we wont truely know its full potential, all i can say is read and experiment!
 

lil poted

Member
Thanks for the help guys i veg for about 4 weeks with 2x125w cfls i let them reach 16inch's tall in bio bizz soil with pearlite and clay pebbels to help aid drainage. with canna A and B, pk 13 and 14, rhizotonic, cannazyme, and boost i havent really been cutting them back they get 8L plant pots while vegging then ill put them in 11L just before i put them into flowering.i flower them under a 600w hps lamp for about 8wks. I have no extraction its the only thing missing out of my setup i have a fan mounted on the wall. i dnt no to much about the npk ratio.

I dont get that many internodes to be honest i get about 16g off the cola and 4g off the rest of the plant.

This grow is just about to finish in a couple of weeks so ill be starting fresh so ill keep up with my grow journal and think ill be going with a new strain thinking abowt changing to coco

Just let me no what i missed out cheers
 

dragongrow

Member
The only thing i can think of is if they are 16 inches before switch is that you are stretching them under the cfl, thats some growth from a cutting under cfls in that time, do u have side branches or is it mostly the stem until u switch??
 

lil poted

Member
Really thick stem dont get many side branches but this is my 1st time with cuttings i was just buying 10 seeds a time until i desided to try cuttings out
 

lil poted

Member
The only reason i havent got an extrator is because i dont fancy putting a hole in the wall lol was thinking about running some foil duct going under the floor boards connected to a extractor fan but would need to do some research for my next grow cheers
 
Could you not replace the door with a curtain and then its just a matter of taking out screws rather than drilling a hole in the wall
 

Bakatare666

Well-Known Member
IMO, larger pots would help, and 16" tall after 4 weeks veg sounds like a little stretching.
Also, I don't think you have enough light for 9 plants.
You might help also if you went to 5 gal. pots, instead of 2.9 gallon pots.
 

bigsteve

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Four weeks isn't a very long veg period. I get my veggers to 18-20 inches at 20/4 before they get moved to the flower room at 12/12.
To reach my 18-20 size requirement takes plants from seeds about 5 - 5 1/2 weeks. Rooted clones take around 4 weeks to reach the same size.
That suggests to me that you should let them veg another week or 2. I've been getting 35-45 grams dried with 7-quart pots and a longer veg.
Give it a try, eh?

You didn't mention strain. Most strains will show an increase in yield if you FIM or top them half-way thru veg. That gives you more growing points
as each cut turns one bud into 2.

Good luck, BigSteve.
 

Bakatare666

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Four weeks isn't a very long veg period. I get my veggers to 18-20 inches at 20/4 before they get moved to the flower room at 12/12.
To reach my 18-20 size requirement takes plants from seeds about 5 - 5 1/2 weeks. Rooted clones take around 4 weeks to reach the same size.
That suggests to me that you should let them veg another week or 2. I've been getting 35-45 grams dried with 7-quart pots and a longer veg.
Give it a try, eh?

You didn't mention strain. Most strains will show an increase in yield if you FIM or top them half-way thru veg. That gives you more growing points
as each cut turns one bud into 2.

Good luck, BigSteve.
Gallon n 3/4 pots? WOW. That's nice.
No wonder I frequently see Hotrod complimenting your techniques.
 

BCBuddy420

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Lil Poted. I have some ideas for you to try. Veg them a little bigger/bushier and a slightly longer time, go to 6 weeks. Increase bud sites by topping them at 8 inches or you can do what I've done and tie the top of each plant down using a twist tie and an anchor into the soil of some sort. The idea is that, with the top of the plant tied down, it will maintain growth but instead from all the side branches that would not normally grow that much. Let them grow like this for 10-14 days and untie them, slowly regaining the original stature the plant once had. Now they will be a lot bushier and produce more. Another thing is you HAVE to get fresh air in there and extract it out at a good rate, find a way, make a sacrifice. The plants need fresh air and oxygen cycled to the stomata of the leaves and the recycled ( bad air) has to go out. The more fresh air the better in a small space, or any space. This tips will give you dramatically larger yields man. Also look it up and feed them molasses during the last 3 weeks of flowering, you will see why. Anymore questions just ask, but you don't give enough info on everything you do to pinpoint any mistakes, besides the no air thing lol. It can be a multitude of reasons, you will get better at this but you have to experiment and go to further lengths to get better yields and quality. Good luck. ~BCbuddy420 :leaf:
 
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