30 days into flowering Super Skunk. Diagnosis please?

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

Super Skunk feminized strain 30 days into flowering.
FF ocean forest medium
Transplanted just before flowering cycle
600 Watt LED entire life cycle.
added 1/3 strength of nutes for the first time last week
Tiger bloom, Grow Big, Big Bloom only because I started to see too many yellowing leaves.
Asking for input to improve health, yield and potency.

somebody1701 · Aug 8, 2016

I would never transplant before flower. One time I transplanted from a 3g to 5g and flipped that day. Plant never grew roots into the additional space. Plants I have in the 5g for a week or two before the flip always fill out.

Not sure why you are only doing 1/3 strength nutes. I would go full strength unless you know some reason not to.

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

somebody1701 said:
I would never transplant before flower. One time I transplanted from a 3g to 5g and flipped that day. Plant never grew roots into the additional space. Plants I have in the 5g for a week or two before the flip always fill out.

Not sure why you are only doing 1/3 strength nutes. I would go full strength unless you know some reason not to.

So many different opinions on when to transplant. Do you have a reason on why I shouldn't transplant before flowering? With FF ocean forest the leave tips were brown right from beginning so I remembered from my last grow that the minute I put nutes in, tips of leaves turned brown. Yes, it could have been too much. FF medium has nutes already so I waited until I saw signs of deficiency. I'm just not sure on what type of deficiency. I read that my strain tends to get Phosphorus deficient. Using 1/3 nutes first because I can always add more; can't take out nutes once they hit the soil. Plus I'm not sure if my nodes are to spread apart because of lighting.
I need reasoning and more information on why or why not to do things
PS not sure what you mean when you say "Flip"

SPLFreak808 · Aug 8, 2016

somebody1701 said:
I would never transplant before flower. One time I transplanted from a 3g to 5g and flipped that day. Plant never grew roots into the additional space. Plants I have in the 5g for a week or two before the flip always fill out.

Not sure why you are only doing 1/3 strength nutes. I would go full strength unless you know some reason not to.

Technically, you transplanted during flower.
You gotta wait a few weeks before flipping after transplant.

SPLFreak808 · Aug 8, 2016

Kemuel27 said:
Super Skunk feminized strain 30 days into flowering.
FF ocean forest medium
Transplanted just before flowering cycle
600 Watt LED entire life cycle.
added 1/3 strength of nutes for the first time last week
Tiger bloom, Grow Big, Big Bloom only because I started to see too many yellowing leaves.
Asking for input to improve health, yield and potency.

Health looks fine and should make it to harvest, more light would help the stretch a bit but its too late now and really, its not that bad. What panel are you using?

Resinhound · Aug 8, 2016

600watt led huh... Somehow I doubt that.

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

Resinhound said:
600watt led huh... Somehow I doubt that.

Why would you doubt my lighting? So your saying after I transplant I should wait before switching light cycle, right?

LegalizeNature420 · Aug 8, 2016

Those buds do look more like day 20 than day 30. At first I suspected high nitrogen but I see where you say you've not used heavy ferts, so perhaps it is the transplant at the beginning of flowering that has delayed them. Not a big deal.

As for the yellowing, I used to have that problem until I began mixing in dolomite lime before planting(2TBL per gallon of soil). It maintains the proper PH and allows for heavy feeding. Don't automatically assume that the cure to those burnt tips is to add more nutes, as you might end up only making it worse.

All in all, everything looks pretty good though.

SPLFreak808 · Aug 8, 2016

Kemuel27 said:
Why would you doubt my lighting? So your saying after I transplant I should wait before switching light cycle, right?

Post the panel model...

Yes, wait two weeks before flipping to 12/12. It will give the roots more mass and help with not needing to water daily. It also helps prevent nutrient build up/burn by having a higher soil to root ratio ect..

Resinhound · Aug 8, 2016

Kemuel27 said:
Why would you doubt my lighting? So your saying after I transplant I should wait before switching light cycle, right?

Because it's common for people who don't know any better to get ripped off with cheap led. And your plants look behind, like they don't have sufficient lighting.

Your typical Chinese "600 watt" led typically puts out something like 50 par watts.

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

LegalizeNature420 said:
Those buds do look more like day 20 than day 30. At first I suspected high nitrogen but I see where you say you've not used heavy ferts, so perhaps it is the transplant at the beginning of flowering that has delayed them. Not a big deal.

As for the yellowing, I used to have that problem until I began mixing in dolomite lime before planting(2TBL per gallon of soil). It maintains the proper PH and allows for heavy feeding. Don't automatically assume that the cure to those burnt tips is to add more nutes, as you might end up only making it worse.

I actually misplaced my calendar with the original date of the grow so you very well may be right. As far as the burnt tips, The burnt tips are the reason I just now started adding nutes. I was scared to add nutes because of the burnt tips but the increased yellowing caused me to gamble and add nutes, hense, using 1/3 of the nutes first

LegalizeNature420 said:
Those buds do look more like day 20 than day 30. At first I suspected high nitrogen but I see where you say you've not used heavy ferts, so perhaps it is the transplant at the beginning of flowering that has delayed them. Not a big deal.

As for the yellowing, I used to have that problem until I began mixing in dolomite lime before planting(2TBL per gallon of soil). It maintains the proper PH and allows for heavy feeding. Don't automatically assume that the cure to those burnt tips is to add more nutes, as you might end up only making it worse.

All in all, everything looks pretty good though.

actually misplaced my calendar with the original date of the grow so you very well may be right. As far as the burnt tips, The burnt tips are the reason I just now started adding nutes. I was scared to add nutes because of the burnt tips but the increased yellowing caused me to gamble and add nutes, hense, using 1/3 of the nutes first time to see what happens

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

SPLFreak808 said:
Post the panel model...

Yes, wait two weeks before flipping to 12/12. It will give the roots more mass and help with not needing to water daily. It also helps prevent nutrient build up/burn by having a higher soil to root ratio ect..

Greatly appreciate the feedback.

Here is the link
https://www.amazon.com/Galaxyhydro-Indoor-Greenhouse-Growing-Flowering/dp/B00INM0DSG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470688704&sr=8-1&keywords=Galaxyhydro+600W+LED+Grow+Light+for+Indoor+Greenhouse+Plants+Growing+&+Flowering

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

Resinhound said:
Because it's common for people who don't know any better to get ripped off with cheap led. And your plants look behind, like they don't have sufficient lighting.

Your typical Chinese "600 watt" led typically puts out something like 50 par watts.

Any recommendations for the next time, Any reliable sources for good lighting?

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

LegalizeNature420 said:
Those buds do look more like day 20 than day 30. At first I suspected high nitrogen but I see where you say you've not used heavy ferts, so perhaps it is the transplant at the beginning of flowering that has delayed them. Not a big deal.

As for the yellowing, I used to have that problem until I began mixing in dolomite lime before planting(2TBL per gallon of soil). It maintains the proper PH and allows for heavy feeding. Don't automatically assume that the cure to those burnt tips is to add more nutes, as you might end up only making it worse.

All in all, everything looks pretty good though.

Thanks again for the input! the fact that you noticed a difference in my plant from only a 10 day difference says a lot about your experience.

somebody1701 · Aug 8, 2016

Yes, I meant your last transplant should be during veg and you need to wait a week or two (preferably two, IMO) before you go to the 12/12 schedule (flip).

vostok · Aug 8, 2016

Kemuel27 said:
So many different opinions on when to transplant. Do you have a reason on why I shouldn't transplant before flowering? With FF ocean forest the leave tips were brown right from beginning so I remembered from my last grow that the minute I put nutes in, tips of leaves turned brown. Yes, it could have been too much. FF medium has nutes already so I waited until I saw signs of deficiency. I'm just not sure on what type of deficiency. I read that my strain tends to get Phosphorus deficient. Using 1/3 nutes first because I can always add more; can't take out nutes once they hit the soil. Plus I'm not sure if my nodes are to spread apart because of lighting.
I need reasoning and more information on why or why not to do things
PS not sure what you mean when you say "Flip"

FFOF is a hot soil you do well to be cautious on this stuff

I always advise growers to dilute these hot effects by adding 25% perlite

then the grower can add whatever as fert later

so far you have done well caution is good

its no biggy potting up 'late'

you are merely depending on the post veg stretch

to encase the new soil and it will....(check at harvest)

but not as much if done 2-3 weeks earlier ...again no biggy

important now to give her the right color light

and more stretch is er ....expected

nice grow

good luck

Resinhound · Aug 8, 2016

vostok said:
FFOF is a hot soil you do well to be cautious on this stuff

I always advise growers to dilute these hot effects by adding 25% perlite

then the grower can add whatever as fert later

so far you have done well caution is good

its no biggy potting up 'late'

you are merely depending on the post veg stretch

to encase the new soil and it will....(check at harvest)

but not as much if done 2-3 weeks earlier ...again no biggy

important now to give her the right color light

and more stretch is er ....expected

nice grow

good luck

Honestly most of the stuff you post makes alot of sense... Except this.

Adding perlite to Ffof won't make it any less hot, it will just mean you have less hot soil in your pot. If you are going to cut Ffof for purposes of reducing the nutrient load you need to mix it with something inert like coco or promix or another light soil AND perlite for drainage if you want. Just adding some rocks to Ffof isn't going to reduce the nutrient load.

LegalizeNature420 · Aug 8, 2016

Kemuel27 said:
the fact that you noticed a difference in my plant from only a 10 day difference says a lot about your experience.

You're quite the little charmer.

vostok said:
FFOF is a hot soil you do well to be cautious on this stuff

Not really; I plant clones in FFOF and fertilize heavy w/ every watering up until harvest. Just add dolomite lime to soil and you'll have beautifully healthy leaves:

Kemuel27 · Aug 8, 2016

vostok said:
FFOF is a hot soil you do well to be cautious on this stuff

I always advise growers to dilute these hot effects by adding 25% perlite

then the grower can add whatever as fert later

so far you have done well caution is good

its no biggy potting up 'late'

you are merely depending on the post veg stretch

to encase the new soil and it will....(check at harvest)

but not as much if done 2-3 weeks earlier ...again no biggy

important now to give her the right color light

and more stretch is er ....expected

nice grow

good luck

Good Lookin on the feedback.

Kemuel27 · Aug 14, 2016

Whats up folks. didn't want to start a new thread. Different plants
Unknown strains
Outdoor grow 70-80 days old
Unknown start date of flowering
FFOW medium, having to water daily, you see the grass. hot
5 days ago in the evening I sprayed some water, tiny bit of dish soap and baking soda to try and contain powdery mildew next few days it just look like the baking soda dried on the leaves.
Added first dose of full strength nutes 2 days ago
Got heavy rain most of the evening yesterday. Woke up to them like this.
I'm thinking multiple issues, over watered because of rain, maybe sun burn, deficiencies is where I have no idea and of course the powdery mildew.
Computer was messing up couldn't do thumbnails.
Any help would be great!

30 days into flowering Super Skunk. Diagnosis please?

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