3-4 x 315 CMH, OR 1 x Gavita 1000w, or 2 x Gavita 600w, for Veg??? 7 x 7 Area

deno

deno

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Why not just put a MH bulb in the Gavita? I skeptical that any 315w light has as much penetration as a 1kw HID.
 
vilify

vilify

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Either 315's or 2x600w will do far better than a single 1000w.

In my personal experience 3x315's would outperform the others and if youre willing to do 4 then its a no brainer.
 
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cookie master

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the gavitas are known for radiant heat. May not be an issue since its getting cooler. As an initial investment the 315 isnt bad, I have only good things to say about it.
 
jimihendrix1

jimihendrix1

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deno said:
Why not just put a MH bulb in the Gavita? I skeptical that any 315w light has as much penetration as a 1kw HID.
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I have no illusion a 315w light will penetrate as well as a 1000, but they should penetrate plenty enough for a 24 - 30 inch tall veg plant, and with a better light spectrum.

How about thoughts on the LEP ?????
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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jimihendrix1 said:
Ive already got the flowering lights ( 2 1000w Gavitas ) but also have 8 1000w with Hortilux Bulbs, that I'm phasing out for something different. I'm just hoping the CHM will cover a 7 x 7 in Veg, and with as much light as possible. I could use what I already have, and probably get just as good of results, but Id like the try the spectrum of the CMH.

I like strong light on my seedlings from the start. Just like the equator, they would be getting strong light from the beginning. I want them growing as fast as possible when put into flowering, and I find HID works for me.. and I don't have to worry about heat, so heat is a non issue.

Im also still considering 2 x 600w Gavitas.
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You’ll be stoked with 4- 315’s in that space for veg.
 
vilify

vilify

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I've had my best success vegging with 640w (from the wall) LED's. Had shit penetration. Not that important in veg, most cases.
 
jimihendrix1

jimihendrix1

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IMHO. Penetration is Very Important for developing strong side branching from the start, and no stretching ect. I only grow plants that have strong, and complex branching, for max production.

I want my plants metabolizing like a MoFo before I put them in flowering.

I also veg in larger containers, like 5g at least, and then transplant into 20G for flowering, but this go around Im using a bit smaller containers, but want as much good light, with penetration as possible, as I have a fairly good size area..

My buddy has LED and really only uses it for supplemental lighting, after experimenting. At this time, Im not interested in LED.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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jimihendrix1 said:
IMHO. Penetration is Very Important for developing strong side branching from the start, and no stretching ect. I only grow plants that have strong, and complex branching, for max production.

I want my plants metabolizing like a MoFo before I put them in flowering.

I also veg in larger containers, like 5g at least, and then transplant into 20G for flowering, but this go around Im using a bit smaller containers, but want as much good light, with penetration as possible, as I have a fairly good size area..

My buddy has LED and really only uses it for supplemental lighting, after experimenting. At this time, Im not interested in LED.
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Some wedding cake vegging in 7x7 pots under 315's.
You wouldn't like the cake because it's a stretchy bitch. But very heavy! :hump:
I grow shit loads of flavors though. The 315's are killer veg lights bro.
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I switched all my veg 600 mh lights a while back. So happy i did.
Each one of these plants get up-potted into 7 gal pots and vegged for one more week, in a couple more days. Under DE's in bloom after that. I usually rock 10 in a 4x8 tray.
 
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Kerovan

Kerovan

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Aeroknow said:
Some wedding cake vegging in 7x7's under 315's.
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I switched all my veg 600 mh's a while back. So happy i did.
Each one of these plants get up-potted into 7 gal pots and vegged for one more week, in a couple more days. Under DE's in bloom after that. I usually rock 10 in a 4x8 tray.
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Not to be rude, but that is an advertisement not to use them.. Those things need a lot more light, they are far too tall and spindly with too much space between nodes.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Kerovan said:
Not to be rude, but that is an advertisement not to use them.. Those things need a lot more light, they are far too tall and spindly with too much space between nodes.
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You ever rock the wedding cake?

Sorry, i did edit my post after you quoted.
 
Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Kerovan said:
Not to be rude, but that is an advertisement not to use them.. Those things need a lot more light, they are far too tall and spindly with too much space between nodes.
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Here's some phantom cookies about 10days into flower after having been vegged under 315's
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Shark18

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i dont see any reason to spend a lot of money on veg lights, get a couple of good adjustable quantum boards and be done with it, low heat, low power draw, and plants love them.
spend the money on flowering lights, thats where it counts.
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Light movers?/! if money ,height,install wasn’t an issue , I’m curious thoughts
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Shark18 said:
Light movers?/! if money ,height,install wasn’t an issue , I’m curious thoughts
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light movers are good and bad...if you have either limited room, or a large shallow area, they can help keep both heat and power consumption down, and prevent your lights from burning plants that grow too close, at least till you see it and move it. the down side is it's another thing to buy, another thing that can break, and once you're set up for them, you kind of need them, or else reorganize your whole area
 
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