2x300w or 1x600w VIPARSPECTRA LED lighting for 2-3 plants

SlappyD

Member
Hey

As the title implies, looking to get my set up ready for Canada's new law (though I am a medical patient already) and used to be an HPS guy years ago but looking to start a new with LED!

The Viparspectra series seems good and not to pricey on amazon.

2x300w $228cad
1x600w $$239cad

Not sure if this is exactly accurate but product info states the 300W LED replaces a 250W HPS/MH while the 600W LED replaces a 600W HPS/MH. Not sure if they mean the 300W LED isn't equivalent to half the 600W LED or if they're just using a 250 HPS/MH as comparison since no one uses a 300W HPS/MH lol.

The 600w does have a Veg and Bloom switch where as the 300w has no option just on/off.

Grow tent is 4'x4'x6'

Thanks
 

SlappyD

Member
After reading some reviews on RUI about Viparspectra seems like I might need more light.

Maybe the 600w Viparspectra and


This Cree COB 300w LED (its cheap so not sure how quality it is) $129
Description - Niello Cree COB Led Grow Light 300W UFO Grow Lamp Full Spectrum Plant Light Include UV & IR Switch
 

pulpoinspace

Well-Known Member
Hello,

Those lights are okay, I've had good results from similar ones, but they are far from the latest tech in LED.

If you're looking for just a cheap light to grow some decent buds I'd probably just get the 600 so you can kind of dim it with those switches while the plants are small. But even with both switches on that light isn't gonna be that powerful in a 4x4.

If you want to maximize your yields and electric efficiency and you're willing to spend a bit more, you can get full spectrum led lights with COB LEDs or quantum boards. Check out timber grow lights. They have a nice 4x4 quantum board fixture and a nice 4x4 fixture with Bridgelux COBs. There are also lots of threads on here about cheaply building really efficient LED grow lights if you're a DIY guy.

Good luck!
 

pulpoinspace

Well-Known Member
Most people on here will steer you towards samsung boards, bridgelux vero29 gen 7 cobs, citizen cobs, luminus cobs, or cree cobs.
 

SlappyD

Member
Hello,

Those lights are okay, I've had good results from similar ones, but they are far from the latest tech in LED.

If you're looking for just a cheap light to grow some decent buds I'd probably just get the 600 so you can kind of dim it with those switches while the plants are small. But even with both switches on that light isn't gonna be that powerful in a 4x4.

If you want to maximize your yields and electric efficiency and you're willing to spend a bit more, you can get full spectrum led lights with COB LEDs or quantum boards. Check out timber grow lights. They have a nice 4x4 quantum board fixture and a nice 4x4 fixture with Bridgelux COBs. There are also lots of threads on here about cheaply building really efficient LED grow lights if you're a DIY guy.

Good luck!

Thanks for the info! I have heard a little about COB's and Quantum boards, but they seem very DIY as even amazon doesn't seem to list many kits. Are fully assembled kits harder to come by? I'm just looking for yields equivalent to a 600w HPS. I used to just use a 400w in a 4x4x6 tent so don't need much to improve haha

Just liked the idea of LED's to help with heat as my place gets super dry in the winter so the less heat and fans to clear the heat away the better i figure. But also want top quality budz (quantity not as important).

Thanks again for the response
 

SlappyD

Member
[QUOTE=Buy these. Nfhiggs makes them

Hes on this forum iuno why i cant tag him. Anyways he knows his shit and sells no bullshit lights..

Extremely high eficiency and the price cant be beat.

Wow that might be a good option. Sounds like he knows what he's talking about on the site and will back up his product. Wonder if shipping to Canada is cheap :)
 
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pulpoinspace

Well-Known Member
Yeah amazon doesn't have good grow lights as of yet. But there are companies that sell complete and ready to hang fixtures. My recommendation is timber grow lights. specifically either their Model 48SAMS or Redwood VS. These would be current tech. You could maximize your quality, quantity, and electrical efficiency.
 

projectinfo

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Really? Every time i see these lights recommended i flinch. They appear to be the work of an elementary school electronics class and dont even have sealed drivers.
Do you regularly flail water above your plants?

Their bare bones, built for efiency .

You want a case just build an enclosure if you really want . Their fine
 

SlappyD

Member
Do we know if the omega lights come complete with the metal frame to hang them? I'm no electrician so would want set up to be pretty simple.

Guessing 320wx12 of these lights is much better than say 2x600w Viparspectra LED? I can 2x600w Viparspectra for $480 Canadian. Since $300 US for the Omega Lights is about $400 Canafian
 

Rocket Soul

Well-Known Member
2 vipar 600w=285*2=570w. You will have similar heat to a 600w hps. Maybe a bit less

https://www.420beginner.com/viparspectra-par600-600w-review/

Scroll down and youll see a par map, how much plant available light it gives. Should be around 700-800. It doesnt cover even a 2x2. Yeah, so what its on 24" height, it still doesnt give a decent spread. Hot spot underneath and nothing in the corners.
You can listen to almost anybody here and youll get a decent light. Just dont by anything with with rainbow colors from amazon. They. Are. All. Shit. No, the reivews are made by noobs or sales reps.

High efficiency, white phosphor based light, 3000-3500k is where growing is right now.
 

SlappyD

Member
2 vipar 600w=285*2=570w. You will have similar heat to a 600w hps. Maybe a bit

Scroll down and youll see a par map, how much plant available light it gives. Should be around 700-800. It doesnt cover even a 2x2. Yeah, so what its on 24" height, it still doesnt give a decent spread. Hot spot underneath and nothing in the corners.
You can listen to almost anybody here and youll get a decent light. Just dont by anything with with rainbow colors from amazon. They. Are. All. Shit. No, the reivews are made by noobs or sales reps.

High efficiency, white phosphor based light, 3000-3500k is where growing is right now.
Awesome thanks for the info! Ya I've been doing more research and it's all like you said, poor spread and intensity when compared to HPS.

Just wanted a way to keep humidity up and temps down a bit as those tend to be my main problems.

Maybe I should be looking at the Omega Light Samsung Strips. Just need more info on how many strips are needed for equivalent 600w HPS. Just looking to grow 2 quality high thc plants, quantity is nice but it's for personal use so quality bud is priority.

Also trying not to spend over $600 Canadian for light after tax and shipping.
 

Humple

Well-Known Member
Awesome thanks for the info! Ya I've been doing more research and it's all like you said, poor spread and intensity when compared to HPS.

Just wanted a way to keep humidity up and temps down a bit as those tend to be my main problems.

Maybe I should be looking at the Omega Light Samsung Strips. Just need more info on how many strips are needed for equivalent 600w HPS. Just looking to grow 2 quality high thc plants, quantity is nice but it's for personal use so quality bud is priority.

Also trying not to spend over $600 Canadian for light after tax and shipping.
On average, when replacing HPS with quality white-light COBs/boards/strips, shoot for around 60% of the wattage.

Edit: this is presuming you're replacing an HPS that was appropriately matched to the size of the grow space in the first place.
 
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