2fast 2vast autoflower

Hey all, I'm on week 5 from seed. Saturday(jan3) I swithed to tiger bloom And I have Been using 1 tablespoon per gallon. Fed once and watered regualr water today. I bought a shitty ph tester online with the two prongs you stick in the soil. Its not the best I know. This is my first grow and if all is well I will soend the money on a better one when I decided to grow more than one plant. it reads the ph around 6.5 so idk? But as you can see the tips and lower leaves are yellowing. Let me know what you think. Anyone ever grow this strain before?
 

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Darth007

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How did this strain turn out for you? Curious as I'm just starting this strain now..Appears to have a nice metallic hue..I'm only in week 3.
Curious about the smoke review? Any feedback appreciated.
 

Fast dog

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Don't grow this strain it's unstable, the buds have hardly no thc and it takes around 12 weeks to finish.
 

Darth007

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Don't grow this strain it's unstable, the buds have hardly no thc and it takes around 12 weeks to finish.

WHAT?.... so 2fast & 2vast is significantly different than Fast & Vast....are both not Heavyweight's seeds? Thank you for the feedback. But could you reference what information your formulating that opinion on? You bought Heavyweights seeds of this strain, grew and smoked? Several growers giving this consensus?

I really do not want to waste time as my AK 47 autos are doing great and I will swap them in a heartbeat if what you say has merit...Not questioning you...this is why I asked...to get this exact type of feedback...guess I wasnt expecting to buy an unstable non THC producing strain from a reputable seedbank....?....

Thanks for any further explanations.....can anyone else collaborate this ????????????
 
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GrowUrOwnDank

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I honestly didn't have any luck with the origam f n v. It looked pitiful so I culled it. But, I been having tons of problems lately so could be something I did wrong tho other genes did well at about the same time. So. FWIW
 

Darth007

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Thanks for info GrowUrOwnDank.....

I've read all the journals I could...I just now read journal by a "Gawjas" of a recent grow of them with success on another site.
Youtube has several successful grows....not seeing many growers starting these strains and ending in failure....
But small sample obv...which is why your feedback is very appreciated.. maybe the failures are not published..IDK
Mine started growing very nicely. But appear stunted now...there like 3 inches high after 3 1/2 weeks....Have been on 3rd node for awhile now..slow slow new growth. Bottom leaves showing obvious signs of some Def or Burn....started 3 dark brown spots...figured residual nute burn from splash on leaf....but 3 days later and it spread to both bottom leaves...yellow and dark brown...almost looks like Ca Def ....they look like so many things...ug...from PH type issue look to Phosphorus or Potassium Def look....or just overall Nute Burn..( use GH Flora Duo A & B.....75% of recommended dose for veg) use silica, hydroguard, and rapid start root with water start point of 66 ppm...50% purified and 50% tap....current ppm is 480 after adding nutes, a little high for auto's i know..will dilute more today..I use that dumb ph liquid checker constantly....can never dial in exactly what I'm at...somewhere around 6.0 is all you can say with those...try to get it a little bit yellower than 6.0 for veg.....but certainly have had fluctuations. Will be investing in a proper meter soon.

OK thanks....if I find more people with neg review or actual solid info suggesting unstable strain with much much lower than the marketed min 18% THC than I would go to my AK47 in the same system as these 2fast 2 vast....they look beautiful..there roots are not down into res yet though....on day 6 in net cups...hand feed...I hand feed when rootplug is dry...but the water is running at the bottom of net pot to draw roots down...i think i over watered a bit and the roots stay in the plug and not pop down for water...so now Im only watering once a day....and that is just a squirt or 2 on the surface of the very dried plug (due to air breeze drying them out quick with humidity at 38 and air temp at 78

Ok well just a sunday morning...getting ready for NFL and all my fantasy teams...but when I saw the response I figured that may be why
 

Darth007

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I know it was the #1 selling auto strain on Herbies.....got mine from Single Seed Centre.
Would a reputable breeder not stop selling an unstable strain? or is Herbies and Single Seed not reputable sellers?
 

Fast dog

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heavyweight seeds are shit. I would never buy from them I promise you you'll be better off with your ak 47, and onistly youll be better of with photos can yield more also if your new to gardening autos can be tricky as they are very queer with nutrients (not forgiving at all) personally I wouldn't waste my space or electric on them, but youll realise all this when you finish them out. Good luck though.
 

Fast dog

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and also you pay for what you get people think because they have all the best gear in the world their smoke will be the best when they have shitty seeds !! Wrong rule no 1 (GOOD SOLID GENETICS) pay the extra money for good genetics, that's where your yield potency flavour come from obv the skill of the grower can multiply this but even if its your first grow and you start with good beans your going to get good results.
 

The_Herban_Legend

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and also you pay for what you get people think because they have all the best gear in the world their smoke will be the best when they have shitty seeds !! Wrong rule no 1 (GOOD SOLID GENETICS) pay the extra money for good genetics, that's where your yield potency flavour come from obv the skill of the grower can multiply this but even if its your first grow and you start with good beans your going to get good results.
Note to self, good product in, good product out.
 

Darth007

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heavyweight seeds are shit. I would never buy from them I promise you you'll be better off with your ak 47, and onistly youll be better of with photos can yield more also if your new to gardening autos can be tricky as they are very queer with nutrients (not forgiving at all) personally I wouldn't waste my space or electric on them, but youll realise all this when you finish them out. Good luck though.
I am finding this strain incredibly difficult....just extreme sensitivity...no where near my AK47's in the same hydro grow..AK's were planted 1 week after and are now all outgrowing the last 2 of my 2fast&2vast....and look very healthy...I started with (5) 2fast and 2vast...had all kinds of trouble with seed covers not coming off damaging first sprouts during germ...then they fake ya out and look good and recover and then bammo, back to problems....in 18 gallons of water, spot on ph, and ppm of 300 using rapid start and hydro guard and spring water at 5 weeks old (stunted....only on very beg of 4th node deveop and top leaf and stunted at like 2 1/2 inches height.....cmon, i now Im a nubie but I'm not a dummy and i do adhere to strict growing protocols (except starting with good stock...lol)....

Ran it no nutes for first 2 weeks, then 200 ppm week 3 and 300 week 4..used silica and hydro-guard only...water is 66-69 degrees...get home today and roots look brownish, but smell ok...i even nibbled on it..lol.. (hey gotta learn right) I dont care if it lives or not, I need to know and I've got another one still growing and so far and still seems okay..So i removed this plant, ran roots under water, clearly saw that some brown was due to sediment (broken up root plug really strung out and weedy caught up in roots....smell and nibble just to see....smelled fresh..tasted like a fresh root...didn't break any roots...didn't taste any real chemical or nasties...that I know of....but her leafs started brown spots a week ago then went yellow, dry and dying...It happened as soon as soon as nutes hit water but I did not connect the dots as it was so low in ppm...I first thought it was Deficiency...to me cal def looks like ph imbalance so I went on a ph binge of checking like every 30 min over several days...no improvement....but man did my AK's just take off! I removed this plant and put in another seperate grow area with just tap water and hydroguard...It looks like crap....all top growth ok...but the real first set of leaves are just about dead....and its not heat stress..Their 30 inches away from a 480watt LED. after a two week T5 only grow from germ.

So I think your right brother....5 seeds.....3 successfully germ to sprout....2 of 3 are dying and 1 is still doing okay but had to regrow a leaf due to the seed cover damage during sprout.

I put my trust in the seedbanks...I wouldn't' think Herbies would sell such crap genetics....call it best autoflower ever ??

I will def be doing nothing but photo's.....I did get a word of mouth referral to def do AK47's....I smoked them thinking they were normal before and couldnt tell...it was great stuff...and all research throws ya to heavyweights fast and vast...some good grow journals...all in soil though..not sure I saw many hydro growers with them.

So after these 3 AK do their thing, I'm on to:

PURE AFRICA (looking for something comparable to a landrace sativa strain from Africa origins)
Dr. Kripplings Incredible Bulk
Bubba's Gift
Afghani

But I did not want to grow these until I dialed in....so I just need these 3 AK's and hopefully this 1 2fast and 2vast give me enough medicine til while the Photo's grow etc.

Hey thinks for your experience...it mirrors mine. THanks
 

Fast dog

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herbies marketed those seeds well, probably because they had thousands to get rid of once people started to know they were shit it was all over haha, I would go with a good hybrid strain most are easy to grow and produce well, most cheese hybrids are very good. if your looking at sativa strains then a haze is where you wanna be.
 
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