22 Facts That Prove That The Bottom 90 Percent Of America Is Systematically Getting P
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MuyLocoNC
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Your memory of Clinton is a bit rosy. He had ZERO interest in taking any of the steps that were ultimately successful. He went down kicking and screaming. You can thank Newt Gingrich for having the balls to FORCE Clinton to act responsibly. Anyone who says different is a fucking liar.
Canna Sylvan
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You'd have a point if you didn't trespass on others land. Here's a word of warning, you just do it on not on mine. I cannot be held responsible for your loss of property on mine. My lawyer told me. Sorry it's a legal thing, nothing personal.
Dr Kynes
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so, clinton created surpluses by the sheer force of his will, and all the mean old republicans banded together to undo his glorious works...
CLINTON NEVER HAD REAL SURPLUSES!!
it was all smoke and mirrors, a PROJECTED surplus that wouldnt appear for ten years after he left office, and would only appear if the the congress kept to his 12 year budget religiously AND:
1 ) the tech bubble never burst, so companies like pets dot com could continue racking up profits, and paying our dividends despite making nothing, owning nothing, investing in nothing, and employing nobody.
2 ) the people meekly submitted to confiscatory taxation and wasteful spending, while simultaneously accepting the expansion of the Mandarin Class of government bureaucrats
3 ) no new programs, no new problems, no natural disasters, and no other nations competing with us
4 ) osama bin laden learned his lesson form a few missile strikes on some mud huts and camel tents, and never again troubled the world with his craziness.
5 ) the UN steps in to pick up the slack when our military stops playing word police.
6 ) the congress discovers a previously unknown spirit of fiscal restraint
if even one of the above conditions failed to materialize, the "surplus" would vanish like a fart in the wind.
how can i say the surpluses werent real? if you have a surplus of revenue (like say finding $100 bucks in your tuxedo pants) you can either spend it to pay off outstanding debts, save it or blow it on frivolities
the "found money" of the tech bubble wasnt saved, it wast spent on debts, but a lot of useless bullshit was purchased to increase the popularity of clinton and his congressional friends on both sides of the aisle. the national debt didnt even noticeably slow it's growth during the clinton years. if he had created surpluses the debt would have been reduced, it would not have continued to climb.
if you find free money and blow it on bullshit, you didnt create anything.
ChesusRice
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Yeha Bitcoins are working out Greaattt!
Balzac89
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I was talking silver and gold.
Balzac89
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Bush did create the biggest government entity in the United States Homeland Security. Also two wars
Balzac89
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clarify....
Balzac89
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More of the administrations not the presidents. They have no real push they just sign off on Congress.
ChesusRice
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Futures is not real gold
And gold and silver in hand also involves transaction fees.
Trust me I am a veteran, Got into silver right after it went into the shitter after the Hunt brothers fiasco. I figured it was a no brainer it couldnt go any lower than 4.50 an ounce. I had a shit load of tubes each with a 50 englehardt 1 ounce coins in them. Sold them all for a loss after factoring in transaction fees. I guess i could of held on to them for 30 years and made some real cash, But after factoring in inflation and living expenses I was better off getting out while the getting was good
Harrekin
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Had you waited you could've made like 10 times more, instead you lost money.
Savvy businessman you are, hope you're not your wife's pimp, bitch be makin' no cheddar then regardless of how "me so horrrrny" s/he gets.
Dr Kynes
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so... bush's failures mean clinton was right all along...
clintons surpluses were entirely fictional, but bush's increased spending were equally foolish. bush did NOT "create two wars"
those two wars were 40 years in the making, bush just had to face the inevitable fight created by the foolishness of the past.
by your reasoning, FDR started the biggest war in history because the previous dingbats turned a blind eye to hitler's violations of the versailles treaty, and reagan started the cold war because FDR and churchill sold out eastern europe to the soviets.
wars happen when a tin pot dictator receives the message that he can do as he pleases.
the guy holding office when that tin pot dictator has to be shut down is not the one to blame. if anything CLINTON created the iraq war by refusing to enforce the gulf war cease fire terms, and the afghanistan war by emboldening bin laden and the rest of sandland with his weak, limp wristed response to previous atrocities.
clinton created the conditions which gave the assholes a green light to engage in shenanigans.
Canna Sylvan
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You seen my other posts and know my stances on the amendments. I have warning signs to CYA, Mr. GUERRILLA CULTIVATOR.
Balzac89
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I accept the risk
For someone who purchased 1000 bitcoins 4 years ago, I didn't sell at the top, but about 75% from the top.
Made a huge bundle.
Bitcoins were one of my top investments of all time.
You mean that Clinton paid down the deficit with fictional bubble money that had mostly evaporated when Bush became president, just like all of Bush's progress on the deficit was undone by fictional housing bubble money evaporating before Obama became president.
Most of the adjustments to the budget numbers after Bush became president had nothing to do with tax cuts--they were economic adjustments to reflect what real GDP growth and real tax receipts actually were.
The purpose of inflation adjustment is to relate past prices to the present. The fact that the median house was $20,000 in 1965 is only meaningful when considered with the median wage of $7,500 in 1965. The fact that a median house costs $190,000 today is only relevant compared to the median wage of $50,000 today.
(Yes, if you work this out a house costs more in real terms today than in 1965. In the almost 50 years since 1965, houses got far larger and far nicer than they were in 1965, so make sure you consider that before attempting to jump, because I've got the data ready).
They aren't an investment, they're a pyramid scheme. Bitcoins have absolutely no value except the value people are willing to give them; all the money made in Bitcoins was made off of hype that saw them unloaded to stupid, gullible people. Getting in on the ground floor of selling nothing is preying on how moronic people are, not "investing" in something.
Lurkdewitt
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My brother worked 90 hour weeks since he was 19 at a gold mine in cripple creek colorado, he worked his ass off all while raising 3 kids and staying active in their lives as a father. After 5 years he had enough money to buy an ATM machine, 2 years later he owned 3 redbox machines and as of right now he's opening up a gas station. The only limit to your success in America is your own dreams and your resilience to hardships. I'm not trying to be a motivational speaker but don't let doubt stop you from trying to accomplish your goals and when you get to the top you'll laugh at people for saying you never had to work for your money. Just my .02
