Tstat
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It’s not PM, at least not yet. The other day I hit them with Azamax, today I used Green Cure. I also have some neem I can use. I don’t have BT spray, what’s a good one to buy?
2020 MASSACHUSETTS outdoor grow Thread!
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BobsBeauties
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Expecting rain all day today and through the night. Took my five flowering ladies (15-gallon fabric pots) into the detached garage, put an oscillating tower fan on them. Thinking of getting a second fan. I love growing in pots so I can protect my plants, but 15 gallon is quite a pain to be dragging back and forth every time it rains. Next year instead of 5 big plants I may do 12 7-10 gallon smart pots and plant slightly later in season, that way moving is easier, and it's certainly more discrete. Looking forward to a good harvest and this hobby is rewarding as hell, but it's a lot of work taking care of 5 six-foot-tall trees.
I use Monterey -
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PioneerValleyOG
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Mold is kind of like herpes I hear. 1.Don't worry about it until it shows up, 2. There are ways to treat and control these situations in our modern times. and 3. Never over-react. My grow is next to an unfilled pool due to a ripped liner, with green groundwater on the bottom that is home to frogs in spring and summer, until our raccoon Grassy wipes them out by fall. They sing us to sleep in the spring and summer.... but are slowly and methodically murdered by Grassy until the BBBRRPPppppsss slowly disappear.
I have very few issues with mold, however, I have had (very few) plants get molded. As a new grower, you should also watch out for this during and have a solid plan for your curing process. It can be tricky in our fall environment to either dry the medicine too fast or too slow. Hint: think basement not attic. No major fan blowing, you just want the colas to kind of sway.
That being said, sounds like if you have water, you also have breeze flowing down that 'Valley', trim your bottom branches for air flow, eliminate waste on that little 'popcorn bud'- trust me. The air flow will help in moisture reduction. Here's another tip, leaf blower. if your plants are going through a soggy phase that worries you, some growers I know use an out door fan to stimulate air flow, and some go full on leaf blower, although I'd suggest using this technique with great restraint. A little blow goes a long way, I've heard.
And that's all PVOG has at this time. May your harvest be blessed.
PioneerValleyOG
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Haha.just posted a reply to a dude about that one min ago.Out there in the dark with a leaf blower, as always. Good times
mattypacks
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Quick nutrient question - I feel like things are getting pretty light in terms of P-K on some of the plants and I want to give them a little bit of a boost. I dont have any complete dry amendment mixtures like mr.bs or gaia green but I do have kelp meal (1-0.1-2), alfalfa meal(2.5-0.5-2.5) langebenite(0-0-22), and seabird guano(0-11-0) all dte brand. I tried to be a hero and mix a little of each into a compost tea which made the pH 4.5, shouldnt have experimented this late into the game and dont want to know how the plants would react to that. Lesson learned to keep things separate lol.
So my question is, should I top dress and feed compost tea on top like I have been doing through veg, or make a separate nute tea of the amendments combined and feed every other week for a more instant effect? Of course some of these amendments have a pretty long breakdown period and theres only 7-8 weeks left before the entire garden is harvested so I dont want things becoming primarily available when they're not supposed to.
So my question is, should I top dress and feed compost tea on top like I have been doing through veg, or make a separate nute tea of the amendments combined and feed every other week for a more instant effect? Of course some of these amendments have a pretty long breakdown period and theres only 7-8 weeks left before the entire garden is harvested so I dont want things becoming primarily available when they're not supposed to.
Warfox
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Personally, I don’t get too worried about organic products re overdoing it; it’s not like using salts imo. If it were ME, I would utilize at least the combo of seabird guano+langbenite+kelp/alfalfa if you need Nitrogen. Cannabis still requires a certain amount of nitrogen in flower. I’d top dress it now, OR I think you COULD mix your 4.5 tea with Dolomite Lime to
Raise ph and give an added calcium+ mag boost? Curious to see why everyone thinks.
Edit: and in soil, I certainly don’t get very worried about a 4.5pH tea; it won’t affect the soil pH that much IMO.
mattypacks
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I did add silica and dolomite lime in which helped with the pH a little, but by this point is was going way longer than the window of time I usually brew in. You are totally right though, im sure it would have been just fine to feed as it was, I dont usually bother with pH but I got a new meter and my mistake was actually using it lol. Because of how long it was brewing for and my uncertainty I just decided to start it over again. No excuses, I got sloppy. I think i'll leave the amendments out of it, top dress before I feed, and in a few weeks if they still look hungry ill throw together a nute tea starting at half strength.
doug mirabelli
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Night pics are way sexier.. see second pic in front, broken branch 
Warfox
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Night pics are way sexier.. see second pic in front, broken branch
Already looking mouthwatering!
doug mirabelli
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Thanks mayn. Luckily someone just moved out of a room in my house so I’ll be able to clear it out and dry in. I’ve had a lot of talk about pvc lately but I wanna build a drying rack with it. I have 2 dehumidifiers and I’m buying a portable ac, connecting the ac to a thermostat and setting the temp and humidity to 60. But yeah I wanna hear what others are doing too
stealthfader508
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I’m using my 4x8 grow tent to dry as much as possible ... in the fall I have a low RH so I control a humidifier with an ink bird.. I use an ac infinity fan and controller to control the temps
doug mirabelli
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Are you sure your rh will be low when you put all of your harvest in your tent? My understand is that rh will go up significantly when bringing the harvest into a drying space. I’m interested in the infinity but not sure if it would work for a whole room. Ink bird looks like a good product too.
dunphy
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I figured the same, but noticed if Im exchanging air quick enough, it really is the local RH that would matter, because thats my intake source, as well as the exhaust pushing alot of moisture out, It was challenging at first learning the small differences throughout the dry in different rooms.. Nowadays I have to have both humidifier and dehumidifier as well as pulling air from an air-controlled room and from uninsulated basement in some instances.
stealthfader508
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yes it brings the rh up a bit when they first start hanging, but after a few days it starts to settle in quickly ... the humidifier barely runs at night, but during the day my problem becomes low RH... if i were drying this time of year I would probably need to use the dehumidifier instead though... I use an 8" ac infinity in that tent that vents out through a charcoal filter, it's a great product... you can almost dial in any rh or temp you want and it'll keep it there ... it depends on the room size, but it has some balls ... the inkbird is a great tool as well ... right now i use it in the greenhouse to control temp and humidity, but it'll come inside once drying starts
one of the most important things I found is growing different strains with different finish times ... there;s nothing worse than having everything finish at once, and then you're in a mad scramble to get it all processed ... hopefully the early finishers get chopped in late september/early october, then keep going right up into November
doug mirabelli
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I’m hoping they all finish at different times too.. and it does seem like mine will. I also plan on harvesting in sections.. cutting the tops the first and letting the undergrowth flower for a bit longer. But I’m worried about the drying process bc that’s where I’ve struggled in the past and need to
Improve this year
stealthfader508
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yea me too man ... i've definitely over-dried in the past, it's an easy way to ruin a perfect harvest ... now i just trim the fan leaves at harvest and dry them on the biggest stem sections possible ... i try to slow the drying process as much as possible ... 10-14 days is what I'm aiming for ... from there I'll buck them down and dry trim ... if they're still a little too moist I may throw them in paper bags or a big cardboard box... but only for maybe a day or two ... i like to jar them up and start burping when they're still a little moist ... not to the touch but just inside the buds ... i then try to release that moisture over about 3-4 weeks of burping the jars ... i never use boveda packs or any of that nonsense though ... once the jars are holding about 58-60% rh consistently the buds get sealed up for good
Zeez
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It's not just the drying, but the beginning of the cure. Optimum moisture content is 62%. I believe that if it gets below 55% you have over dried and messed up the cure. The outside of the flower can be apparently dry but the moisture content inside is much higher, so the evening out of the moisture content is very important. If the flowers remain too long at high moisture levels then you risk mold.