2017 Grow your own thread

EGrower said:
Wheres a good place to get 315 or 630 cmh in canada?
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Depends if you want the unbranded Chinese ones or the ones from the big name companies (many of which are sourced from the same Chinese factories as the unbranded). I got my 630 from growlights.ca for just shy of $600, I almost ordered the same one direct from their supplier on alibaba but the cost is only slightly less after duty fees and it would take 2-3 weeks longer to arrive.
 
At 3.5 weeks my auto NL's seem to be doing well for the most part. I think I need to yank this one as it is presenting signs of TMV (I am unsure how it could have gotten it other than possibly piggy backing on the seed itself) and I do not want it to spread to the others, or my grow tent/equipment.
 

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it could easily be something else..from waht i have seen its uber rare..and more likely to be ruesset/broad mites
sorry..your pics are too large for my dsl
 
OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:
it could easily be something else..from waht i have seen its uber rare..and more likely to be ruesset/broad mites
sorry..your pics are too large for my dsl
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It is only the one plant and I can't find bugs at all, even with a microscope (actual microscope, not a jewelers loupe although I tried that first). To properly id or rule out TMV I would need either a test kit or an electron microscope but I have neither. I was honestly shocked because I had never even heard of it before I started looking into what was going on with the plant. It hits new growth as well, whatever the pattern is while it grows is the pattern that stays with it until the leaf is full grown, it does not alter in appearance like it should if bugs are attacking it. It only appears on the tops of leaves but I of course checked both top and bottom of multiple leaves.

Here is another pic from a week ago or so that I shrunk down some that also shows how the leaves grow bent .
 

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lol was gonna say smoke virus or mosaic but they say it spread...although I have seen this before it never spread to other plants.
 
dienowk said:
It is only the one plant and I can't find bugs at all, even with a microscope (actual microscope, not a jewelers loupe although I tried that first). To properly id or rule out TMV I would need either a test kit or an electron microscope but I have neither. I was honestly shocked because I had never even heard of it before I started looking into what was going on with the plant. It hits new growth as well, whatever the pattern is while it grows is the pattern that stays with it until the leaf is full grown, it does not alter in appearance like it should if bugs are attacking it. It only appears on the tops of leaves but I of course checked both top and bottom of multiple leaves.

Here is another pic from a week ago or so that I shrunk down some that also shows how the leaves grow bent .
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thanks for resizing it..i see variegation..if you used a microscope ..yes you are right you woulda seen bugs..
 
How long did it take to see pre flower? Im in the middle of week 3 and still haven't seen any preflower yet. All have shown sex but there's no bud development. Is this something anyone's experienced. I bought my sour jack seeds from crap king also
 
customgrow420SF said:
How long did it take to see pre flower? Im in the middle of week 3 and still haven't seen any preflower yet. All have shown sex but there's no bud development. Was this something you experienced. I bought my seeds from crap king also.
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If you are talking about the NL auto's there seems to be 3 pheno's and they all have different time periods. 15-17 days for first pistils, started to preflower then stopped while they stretched like crazy. Today is day 32 and the 3 shorter narrow leaf pheno's are preflowering as well as the one broad leafed one. The tall narrow leaf one looks like it will within a day or 2.
 
Looking a little sad today but they should have been watered last night so it was completely my fault (this seems to happen if I am half a day late with a watering).
They are all a decent height with the tallest being just over 4 feet tall. All are flowering now with the tall one lagging behind several days. 20170620_122237_HDR.jpg
 
TheRealDman said:
Watch that stress...it can cause all kinds of issues.
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Yea, last thing I want is another hermie or something. This happened because I got lazy, simply didn't check them the one night and it happened to be the night I should have watered them. Auto's seem to be pretty damn resilient plants but I still do not want to stress them too often.
 
Turns out my plant wilting issue is ph, my pen needed recalibration so the 5.8 reading I was using was closer to 5.0 in reality. One of the things I enjoy about this entire process is that there is constantly something to learn and something to improve upon.
 
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