2012

Leap year applies to OUR calendar because it is imperfect. The leap year corrects a slight innacuracy in the Gregorian Calendar. The Mayan calendar is an equation if you will, or calculator of time. It is a more accurate way of recording time than our own.
 
Wondrboy said:
Leap year applies to OUR calendar because it is imperfect. The leap year corrects a slight innacuracy in the Gregorian Calendar. The Mayan calendar is an equation if you will, or calculator of time. It is a more accurate way of recording time than our own.
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nonsense the leap year has to do with the transit around the sun and the amount of days that it takes to do so. its not an inaccuracy in the gregorian calender rather than a necessity to kept it a solar calender

the mayan calendar will shift a day every 4 years that means every 4 years midsummer's day would be in a different place on their calendar how is that accurate to anything?
 
Try not to apply our units of measurement into this factor. Just because we keep track of time by recording movements of celestial bodies, doesn't mean someone else bases their counting off of something simple, such as one's fingers. I am no expert, rather intrigued with reason; this is the best explanation for what I've come to understand about their "time recorder":

http://jameswatt.me/2012/03/07/mayan-calendar-and-the-gregorian-leap-year/


Also, found a simple explanation of their mathematics system one third the way down on this site:

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Mayan_mathematics.html (referencing at where it explains how Mayans based mathematics on the value 20)
 
ginjawarrior said:
its not an inaccuracy in the gregorian calender rather than a necessity to kept it a solar calender
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You are correct here. I should have proposed leap year as a correction of the Julian calendar's inaccuracy; however we really should revert to topic, the way we count is irrelevant to this thread.

BongTokinAlcoholic420, I'm curious what are the influences that your prediction has been developed?
 
Wondrboy said:
Try not to apply our units of measurement into this factor. Just because we keep track of time by recording movements of celestial bodies, doesn't mean someone else bases their counting off of something simple, such as one's fingers. I am no expert, rather intrigued with reason; this is the best explanation for what I've come to understand about their "time recorder":

http://jameswatt.me/2012/03/07/mayan-calendar-and-the-gregorian-leap-year/


Also, found a simple explanation of their mathematics system one third the way down on this site:

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Mayan_mathematics.html (referencing at where it explains how Mayans based mathematics on the value 20)
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Every human in history (until the rather recent invention of the mechanical clock, which adopted the units decided on previously) has kept time by length of day, month and year. Who would your candidate for "someone else" be? cn
 
cannabineer said:
Every human in history (until the rather recent invention of the mechanical clock, which adopted the units decided on previously) has kept time by length of day, month and year. Who would your candidate for "someone else" be? cn
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Wondrboy said:
Also, found a simple explanation of their mathematics system one third the way down on this site:

http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/HistTopics/Mayan_mathematics.html (referencing at where it explains how Mayans based mathematics on the value 20)
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The Mayans in this case.
 
Here is my point copied and pasted straight from text found within the link that I had to post and quote:

"Almost certainly the reason for base 20 arose from ancient people who counted on both their fingers and their toes. Although it was a base 20 system, called a vigesimal system, one can see how five plays a major role, again clearly relating to five fingers and toes. In fact it is worth noting that although the system is base 20 it only has three number symbols (perhaps the unit symbol arising from a pebble and the line symbol from a stick used in counting). Often people say how impossible it would be to have a number system to a large base since it would involve remembering so many special symbols. This shows how people are conditioned by the system they use and can only see variants of the number system in close analogy with the one with which they are familiar." -www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk

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I wanted to add:
"With such crude instruments the Maya were able to calculate the length of the year to be 365.242 days (the modern value is 365.242198 days). Two further remarkable calculations are of the length of the lunar month. At Copán (now on the border between Honduras and Guatemala) the Mayan astronomers found that 149 lunar months lasted 4400 days. This gives 29.5302 days as the length of the lunar month. At Palenque in Tabasco they calculated that 81 lunar months lasted 2392 days. This gives 29.5308 days as the length of the lunar month. The modern value is 29.53059 days."

Excerpt from

 
Wondrboy said:
The Mayans in this case.
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But per the link, the Mayan civil calendar (Haab) was by 365-day years broken into 18-and-change months. They had two ritual chronicling systems (Tzolkin and Long Count) but the primary "business" calendar was astronomical in origin. So we're both right, basically. cn
 
Wondrboy said:
Exactly; it's all just counting and how one would establish means to keep track.
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Fwiw Western cultures have some pretty cool non-decimal counting traditions as well, notably for dividing the day and the circle into smaller units. cn

<edit> Just saw your addendum about the length of the lunar month. It really is impressive that they bracketed it to within thirty seconds of the highly precise value our modern optics and chronometry have given us.
 
BongTokinAlcoholic420 said:
I believe some time in december of this year, their will be a HUGE earthquake which destroys all life form. their shall be a select few who are "picked up" by Intelligent Beings and sent to another planet to further our DNA. i think i've been told this....
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Dude... I think you should put the bottle down and pick up the bong more often... just sayin..

alp
 
mindphuk said:
I didn't say I never saw the claim made in the video, I just didn't want to slog through it again to find it. Then as now, I took what was claimed with a grain of salt. I figured, and appear to be correct, that they cherry picked only sites that happen to fit on their 'line' including many spots without any architecture but "known" home of the gods by certain cultures. They also lie when they say it is a "hundred kilometer wide line" when just going from Pachacamac to the Tiwanaku Archaeological Site is over 1000km at a virtual right angle to the line connecting Easter Island and the Giza Pyramids. They have to ignore all of the Mayan AND Aztec ruins, pyramids and temples in Mexico as well as many other famous sites around the world such as Stonehenge in order to coincide with their 'line.' It seems to me to be an obvious case of putting a circle around some carefully chosen arrows and calling it a bullseye.

You mean architecture that holds up well to earthquakes because of 'far from perfect' joints between mud bricks?
http://science.discovery.com/videos/engineering-the-impossible-earthquake-proof.html

Your whole premise is based on arrogant and frankly racist premises, i.e. there is no way these primitive people could have built x or y without special advanced knowledge. Ancient humans were as intelligent as we are and many were talented mathematicians and engineers. There are many ancient structures that show ingenious design and execution but are no more a mystery than the Empire State Building. Hagia Sofia in Constantinople has been mentioned previously. It is studied by modern engineers for it's earthquake-proof design yet it was built in 537 CE and have plenty of historical construction documentation. If Hagia Sofia could be built 1500 years ago much better than we could construct it today with all our modern technology, why is it such a stretch that the Egyptians, some of the smartest people who ever lived on this earth in any time, could build a pyramid, or the Mayans, or Incas or whoever?
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lol racist eh? You are hilarious my friend. You provided no map, just making claims with no backing, really not like you skeptics. And just admit you didnt watch the video already lol you cant spend this much time lying to yourself and still look good afterwards. There are theories out there that some of the less famous pyramids that are in ruin were destroyed by massive explosions because of the black dust found everywhere around them. Theres also theories that those apparently mud brick pyramids that are nothing special were built by pharaohs that arrived at egypt with the great pyramids already standing and they wanted to replicate it. Another example of that is of a Inca King trying to replicate the accomplishments of his ancient predecessors, he used 20000 men to drag a rock from miles away and killed over 3000 people in the process when it tumbled over, that boulder didnt even make it to its destination. One of the only pieces of writing saying how massive boulders were moved shows them miserably failing, so much for just man power. Another thing thats crazy is that carbon dating proves the great pyramid was built from the top down, care to explain how? Of course you show one of the less famous pyramids to try and prove the earthquake proof architecture wrong. Try stickin to the great pyramids and some of the structures around them where the perfect puzzle piece architecture is clearly visible, alright? So when it comes to proving the earthquake proof architecture wrong, you gained no ground, all the buildings I mentioned (and maybe a couple more) still have the exact same puzzle piece indestructible architecture, theres nothing you can do to say that they dont. Its just mere coincidence that they all share the same architecture, right? Perhaps they put a message in a bottle to tell other cultures around the world to build using massive rocks interlocked perfectly with each other so they would withstand time xD.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle said:
lol racist eh? You are hilarious my friend. You provided no map, just making claims with no backing, really not like you skeptics. And just admit you didnt watch the video already lol you cant spend this much time lying to yourself and still look good afterwards. There are theories out there that some of the less famous pyramids that are in ruin were destroyed by massive explosions because of the black dust found everywhere around them. Theres also theories that those apparently mud brick pyramids that are nothing special were built by pharaohs that arrived at egypt with the great pyramids already standing and they wanted to replicate it. Another example of that is of a Inca King trying to replicate the accomplishments of his ancient predecessors, he used 20000 men to drag a rock from miles away and killed over 3000 people in the process when it tumbled over, that boulder didnt even make it to its destination. One of the only pieces of writing saying how massive boulders were moved shows them miserably failing, so much for just man power. Another thing thats crazy is that carbon dating proves the great pyramid was built from the top down, care to explain how? Of course you show one of the less famous pyramids to try and prove the earthquake proof architecture wrong. Try stickin to the great pyramids and some of the structures around them where the perfect puzzle piece architecture is clearly visible, alright? So when it comes to proving the earthquake proof architecture wrong, you gained no ground, all the buildings I mentioned (and maybe a couple more) still have the exact same puzzle piece indestructible architecture, theres nothing you can do to say that they dont. Its just mere coincidence that they all share the same architecture, right? Perhaps they put a message in a bottle to tell other cultures around the world to build using massive rocks interlocked perfectly with each other so they would withstand time xD.
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Mindphuk did provide a map. In terms of credibility, this is not a close contest. Jmo. cn
 
Chief Walkin Eagle said:
lol racist eh? You are hilarious my friend. You provided no map, just making claims with no backing, really not like you skeptics. And just admit you didnt watch the video already lol you cant spend this much time lying to yourself and still look good afterwards. There are theories out there that some of the less famous pyramids that are in ruin were destroyed by massive explosions because of the black dust found everywhere around them. Theres also theories that those apparently mud brick pyramids that are nothing special were built by pharaohs that arrived at egypt with the great pyramids already standing and they wanted to replicate it. Another example of that is of a Inca King trying to replicate the accomplishments of his ancient predecessors, he used 20000 men to drag a rock from miles away and killed over 3000 people in the process when it tumbled over, that boulder didnt even make it to its destination. One of the only pieces of writing saying how massive boulders were moved shows them miserably failing, so much for just man power. Another thing thats crazy is that carbon dating proves the great pyramid was built from the top down, care to explain how? Of course you show one of the less famous pyramids to try and prove the earthquake proof architecture wrong. Try stickin to the great pyramids and some of the structures around them where the perfect puzzle piece architecture is clearly visible, alright? So when it comes to proving the earthquake proof architecture wrong, you gained no ground, all the buildings I mentioned (and maybe a couple more) still have the exact same puzzle piece indestructible architecture, theres nothing you can do to say that they dont. Its just mere coincidence that they all share the same architecture, right? Perhaps they put a message in a bottle to tell other cultures around the world to build using massive rocks interlocked perfectly with each other so they would withstand time xD.
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Where was your map? You mean the one bogus one in the video that claims a line is 40+ miles wide? "There are theories" doesn't provide any evidence at all. Quoting another loon's "theories" doesn't prove anything. That some unnamed "Inca king" failed doesn't prove it can't be done. Carbon dating is only accurate to like 500 years. Even if it was accurate to the second, that would only show they put the older rocks on the top. When you quarry the stone, the younger rock is on top the old rock. So the younger stone is on the bottem of the pyramids. IT DATES THE ROCKS, NOT THE BUILDING!!! How famous a pyramid is has nothing to do with it's validity. Your "perfect puzzle piece architecture" is no where near perfect. The Great Pyramid of Giza has some gaps between the stones a man can walk through. The pyramids are not all built the same, you're just too blind to see what everyone else can. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Frankly, you can't be as stupid as you sound, so I'm hoping you're just trolling. Then again, I suppose it's possible. Say, I have a great investment opportunity for you. It's really a great money maker. And your money is perfectly safe. All funds are guaranteed by the Royal Family of Nigeria. Interested?
 
Red1966 said:
Where was your map? You mean the one bogus one in the video that claims a line is 40+ miles wide? "There are theories" doesn't provide any evidence at all. Quoting another loon's "theories" doesn't prove anything. That some unnamed "Inca king" failed doesn't prove it can't be done. Carbon dating is only accurate to like 500 years. Even if it was accurate to the second, that would only show they put the older rocks on the top. When you quarry the stone, the younger rock is on top the old rock. So the younger stone is on the bottem of the pyramids. IT DATES THE ROCKS, NOT THE BUILDING!!! How famous a pyramid is has nothing to do with it's validity. Your "perfect puzzle piece architecture" is no where near perfect. The Great Pyramid of Giza has some gaps between the stones a man can walk through. The pyramids are not all built the same, you're just too blind to see what everyone else can. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Frankly, you can't be as stupid as you sound, so I'm hoping you're just trolling. Then again, I suppose it's possible. Say, I have a great investment opportunity for you. It's really a great money maker. And your money is perfectly safe. All funds are guaranteed by the Royal Family of Nigeria. Interested?
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What are you doing man? Usually when people try to prove someone else wrong they put together a good counter argument and evidence to back it, all your doing is saying "your wrong! this is done like that, that is done like this, I seen a gap in the construction of the pyramids once!". I see your finally trying to put effort in your responses but PLEASE, provide legit evidence that Im wrong, or else you are just gunna keep looking like an idiot.
 
Chief Walkin Eagle said:
What are you doing man? Usually when people try to prove someone else wrong they put together a good counter argument and evidence to back it, all your doing is saying "your wrong! this is done like that, that is done like this, I seen a gap in the construction of the pyramids once!". I see your finally trying to put effort in your responses but PLEASE, provide legit evidence that Im wrong, or else you are just gunna keep looking like an idiot.
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So far, the only "evidence" you've provided is ludicrous "theories". None of it is factual. The evidence you're wrong has been forth by myself and others, you are just too convinced of your own infalibility to be objective. Your counter argument seems to be limited to calling those who disagree with you idiots. Every one here thinks you're an idiot, Chief Bird Can't Fly. My father once told me to never argue with idiots or zealots. As you qualify on both counts, I think I'm done with you.
 
Red1966 said:
So far, the only "evidence" you've provided is ludicrous "theories". None of it is factual. The evidence you're wrong has been forth by myself and others, you are just too convinced of your own infalibility to be objective. Your counter argument seems to be limited to calling those who disagree with you idiots. Every one here thinks you're an idiot, Chief Bird Can't Fly. My father once told me to never argue with idiots or zealots. As you qualify on both counts, I think I'm done with you.
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About time lol.
 
For anyone who thinks something might happen this year (not the end of the world but "something") This guy is amazing at explaining what might happen. He goes in depth on his claims and science is a key tool he uses to support what hes saying. The first video is less interesting than the others but its still very interesting. He explains and backs up his theory of evolution that contradicts Darwins theory and it actually makes sense. Thats just one of the great insights that Wilcock has to offer. If your one of the "crazies" and have three hours to spare, this is a great way to spend it, shit will blow your mind!... So watch it and let me know if your attending the "I told you so party" in 2013 =p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEyqT2_ricA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zAMdYC80sE&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STqkZR2PSR4&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl2sf5fuIBA&feature=relmfu
 
Come 2013.. I'm just gonna crack open a cold beer, toke up a bowl, and get a good chuckle over all the people that freaked out over the 2012. I won't even tell anybody they were wrong and "I told you so".
 
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