2-3 Weeks From harvest and plants are starting to look like crap

silusbotwin

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Funny how everybody goes right to over watering yet nobody even asks what his medium's water retention/drainage or container size is. For all you guys know, his plants could be drinking it dry every day. I agree, chances are it IS over watering, I'm just tired of seeing people post stuff as gospel when they are not 100% certain even though they think they are.

I see a whole slew of problems. I see lots of nute lock probably built up from not flushing chem salts from your medium. I also see a Manganese deficiency as well as some root problems. Are your roots getting exposed to light? Do you have containers that block light from the medium? I have a feeling if you were to pull the entire rootball out of your container you would see a decent amount of green on your roots.
 

Kaendar

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Offcourse.... Thinking i have see more plants than you ever smoked dude... Do not learn me how sommering works have more experiens that you think..... Stomme flikker
If u had so much "experiens" than u wud be able to tell that there is no saving this plant.. its now or never.
 

Dutchgrower

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If u had so much "experiens" than u wud be able to tell that there is no saving this plant.. its now or never.
just remove the bad leaves.... The buds needs lightning (or how its named) leaves are on the last weeks not needed iff they are crap.... they do not anything....
offcourse you let stay the plants 2 weeks more....why not.... when harvest now you have a bad quality smoke.
So remove the bad leaves en wait...just wait...
 

silusbotwin

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just remove the bad leaves.... The buds needs lightning (or how its named) leaves are on the last weeks not needed iff they are crap.... they do not anything....
offcourse you let stay the plants 2 weeks more....why not.... when harvest now you have a bad quality smoke.
So remove the bad leaves en wait...just wait...
Bigger leaves do nothing at the end eh? Leaves are basically energy warehouses where plants can store food to be used later. You aren't as knowledgeable as you would like yourself to seem.
 

Dr Kynes

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Funny how everybody goes right to over watering yet nobody even asks what his medium's water retention/drainage or container size is. For all you guys know, his plants could be drinking it dry every day. I agree, chances are it IS over watering, I'm just tired of seeing people post stuff as gospel when they are not 100% certain even though they think they are.

I see a whole slew of problems. I see lots of nute lock probably built up from not flushing chem salts from your medium. I also see a Manganese deficiency as well as some root problems. Are your roots getting exposed to light? Do you have containers that block light from the medium? I have a feeling if you were to pull the entire rootball out of your container you would see a decent amount of green on your roots.
Lotta wisdom in this short comment bro.

everybody talkin about water drop "magnifiers" is believing an old wives tale.

when you spray leaves with the lights on, or when the sun is up, (i do this all the time unless it's hot) the plant's spicules suck in the moisture/nutrients/pesticides you spray. when it's hot, the spicules expel water for evaporative cooling. if the leaf's respiration zone is already covered in water, evaporation cant happen and the leaves cook, and burn. in cool temperatures even the brightest lights wont burn your plant. This is how plants survive when it rains during the daytime, or when dew is on leaves in the morning. you can do the same thing spraying foliage in high temps indoors, or when its cloudy but still hot as shit. tropical plants are much less dependent on evaporative cooling, and more resistant to heat in conjunction with humidity,

moral of the story: keep your temps lower or if you cant do that, lower your humidty.. dont spray your foliage when it's hot. spray your pesticides and foliar feedings when the temps are low, but never in the dark unless you really like mould and mildew.
 
Thanks for all the replys.

I noticed now that i lowered the amount of watering i have been doing and i get alot of excess runoff. I am only pouring about 4 cups of water in each 5 gallon pot and it seems like they are not soaking up any of the water. I added some cal-mag and sprayed pesticide for the spyder mites ( which are now gone) , its seems i DID have spider mites and that they were one of the main problems.

I didnt water them for a day. The healthy plants are starting to get a darker green ( i read a post about what caused that im trying to find it now)

I think im going to flush them out again tonight , what would i need to do to add more nitrogen to the soil? i have some bat guano but i usually mix that in when im making my soil medium when i transplant them to the 5 gals.

If needed i can post some more pics tonight when the lights come on.

Again thank you to everyone for your advice and replys. Im doing my best to bring these back.
 

silusbotwin

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Thanks for all the replys.

I noticed now that i lowered the amount of watering i have been doing and i get alot of excess runoff. I am only pouring about 4 cups of water in each 5 gallon pot and it seems like they are not soaking up any of the water. I added some cal-mag and sprayed pesticide for the spyder mites ( which are now gone) , its seems i DID have spider mites and that they were one of the main problems.

I didnt water them for a day. The healthy plants are starting to get a darker green ( i read a post about what caused that im trying to find it now)

I think im going to flush them out again tonight , what would i need to do to add more nitrogen to the soil? i have some bat guano but i usually mix that in when im making my soil medium when i transplant them to the 5 gals.

If needed i can post some more pics tonight when the lights come on.

Again thank you to everyone for your advice and replys. Im doing my best to bring these back.
The thing with your runoff could be because you are watering too fast. When your medium is dry, it takes a second for it to start sucking up water again. If you pay attention when you water a dry plant, the water sits on the surface for a minute before being absorbed. Then when you add a bit more it will start to suck it up quicker. Then add more and at this point it will suck it up pretty fast. If you water too fast, the water will run right down the sides of the bucket and right out of the pot without ever passing through soil. When soil is dry, you have to water a little at a time to get that absorbency factor going.

As for what to add to get yourself a N boost. At this stage in those plants lives, it's a bit late to be feeding any N to them. I'd just let em go and hope for the best but if you add N now, it will cause your final product to be very harsh and sometimes even kinda stringy. Sorta like cabbage I guess. For the record, if you do decide to add N anyways, you want to find a fertilizer that has a high first number. Most fert companies have a 3 part nutrient where one is for growth (high in N) and one is for bloom (High in P and a little K) and a micro formula to deliver secondary elements to your plant. For N you want to use the "Grow" formula.
 
Holy shit. Horrible logic. Obviously you don't drown a plant. That's just common knowledge. And as far as spraying the leaves down when the lights go on, you're supposed to do the opposite. Holy shit. Have you ever done this before?
 

zack66

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Pretty late in the game to feed N. Let them be and hope for the best. As earlier mentioned when watering take your time. I water half the amount i"m giving them and wait 15 minutes then water again. This gives the plants medium time to absorb the water as needed. Good luck!
 
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