1st time main-lining journal......

Lemon king · Nov 17, 2013

jondamon said:
pH 5.8 every feed going in.

EC meter is ideal.

Start off EC
0.6-0.8 seedlings
0.8-1.0 early veg
1.0-1.2 vigorous veg
1.2-1.4 during stretch........................................................weeks 1-3 ???
1.4-1.6 during initial flower setting and PK1314 week. ...weeks 2-4 ???
1.2-1.4 later flowering.......................................................weeks 5-6 ???
0.6-0.8 last 2 weeks of flower. .........................................weeks 7-8 ???

Shouldnt be far wrong following that as a first time.

J

based on your suggestions i have marked it up on an 8 week strain are the weeks i have placed next to the corresponding ec values the weeks when you think the ec should be...?? and if so why, do you know the exact feeding needs of say an 8 week strain

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

Lemon king said:
based on your suggestions i have marked it up on an 8 week strain are the weeks i have placed next to the corresponding ec values the weeks when you think the ec should be...?? and if so why, do you know the exact feeding needs of say an 8 week strain

Jesus H Christ. It was only a rough guide to get him through a grow.

I personally have no set schedule for EC.

The plants runoff tells me pretty much everything I need to know about my next feed strength.

J

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

Lemon king said:
based on your suggestions i have marked it up on an 8 week strain are the weeks i have placed next to the corresponding ec values the weeks when you think the ec should be...?? and if so why, do you know the exact feeding needs of say an 8 week strain

For example this run I've been as high as 1.8EC but that's not in my advice you quoted.

Like I mentioned I treat coco just like any other hydro medium by monitoring EC in vs EC out.

If I get a good drop in EC in the runoff then my next feed gets increased by 0.2EC.

Now its not the perfect way to run it as it doesn't give you an exact indication of the rootzone EC without taking coco samples and distilled water etc but its worked for me for almost 5 years all bar when I was full hydro.

Like any growing method it takes time to develop your "own" way.

I don't believe ANY feeding schedule can be used without hiccups, this is why I stated it should get him through.

And yeah your about right on the weeks. Again though I don't have a set week number for PK1314 usage.

Its governed by plants response and growth etc.

J

jayboss1 · Nov 17, 2013

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

I'll be updating tonight with some more pics.

Its actually quite nice now as I only go into my groom every other day. So I get a full day of not seeing the girls which is always nice as I see more growth when I do go in.

J

jayboss1 · Nov 17, 2013

when I go into my room I see more figgin problems & more water lol

budolskie · Nov 17, 2013

well heres the leaves there worst ones on each plant....

2 afghan kush
1 blue rhino
2 caramel ice(powdery mildew)
2 critical 47......

i forgot to say i chopped my auto down this morning aswell maybe about a q if im lucky haha,,, but only been under 250 cfl and had 4 ltrs off feed with nutes in its whole life span! every other watering was just plain tap water

Javadog · Nov 17, 2013

Don Gin and Ton said:
all i've used for years is canna coco pro. our local water is great the canna line of nutes too. A&B and PK 13/14 all you need, maybe the rhizotonic for the cuts and cannazyme if your going to re use the coco

Note to self: MUST rinse coir before using it!

Ugh.

:0)

JD

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

Javadog said:
Note to self: MUST rinse coir before using it!

Ugh.

:0)

JD

I don't rinse mine.

Canna there is no need to rinse. EC out of the bag around 1.2

ATAMI B'CUZZ COCO most DEFINATELY needs a rinse. EC out of the bag +3.0

COCOGREEN no need. EC out of the bag 1.4.

Any dehydrated blocks of coco should be rinsed and buffered prior to use.

J

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

budolskie said:
well heres the leaves there worst ones on each plant....

2 afghan kush
1 blue rhino
2 caramel ice(powdery mildew)
2 critical 47......

i forgot to say i chopped my auto down this morning aswell maybe about a q if im lucky haha,,, but only been under 250 cfl and had 4 ltrs off feed with nutes in its whole life span! every other watering was just plain tap water

Some of them look like over fert with Mg def too.

J

budolskie · Nov 17, 2013

ok so what u recon the best way for this is,

to cut back on bloom, boost and ginormous and up the cal/ mag

your the expert in here j haha

Javadog · Nov 17, 2013

jondamon said:
I don't rinse mine.

Canna there is no need to rinse. EC out of the bag around 1.2

ATAMI B'CUZZ COCO most DEFINATELY needs a rinse. EC out of the bag +3.0

COCOGREEN no need. EC out of the bag 1.4.

Any dehydrated blocks of coco should be rinsed and buffered prior to use.

J

Yeah, I thought of this "Canna Coco" is likely processed differently. :0)

I used my mushroom "reptile blocks".....these must be half salt. Ugh.

JD

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

budolskie said:
ok so what u recon the best way for this is,

to cut back on bloom, boost and ginormous and up the cal/ mag

your the expert in here j haha

If it were me, I would drop BOOST, GINORMOUS and half the BLOOM dosage and just run calmag at a slightly increased dosage for a few waters.

See if it still spreads or whether it gets better.

Ionic boost is just a PK1314 additive and if I'm right in my assumptions so too is ginormous but in different ratios.

It could quite simply be an over use of P and K.

Excessive amounts of K can hinder the uptake if Ca and Mg.

J

budolskie · Nov 17, 2013

ok cheers m8 i will start that on next watering see how they go, i will be starting to flush them in about 2 weeks i think anyway make sure i leach all the nutes out

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

budolskie said:
ok cheers m8 i will start that on next watering see how they go, i will be starting to flush them in about 2 weeks i think anyway make sure i leach all the nutes out

Let me know how it goes.

J

budolskie · Nov 17, 2013

ok i will keep updated with pics and that.... show how they get on, probs get a few more on tuesday once they have used what i gave them today,

maybe get worse wince was a nice dose with nutes aswell today

jondamon · Nov 17, 2013

Day 31 of 12/12.

Stats
22.1C hi
19.3C lo
47% RH hi
35% RH lo
EC in 1.3
EC out 1.4 all plants including clones.
Plants virtical growth has now pretty much stopped and flower forming is really taking off.

Any pics you see of a more natural colour are clones. I always take them out to get to my rear plants as its difficult to water between 4 small pots.

Some nice cola shots in these pics.

Along with my filter and fan setup and my intake ports. The fan exhausts straight into my attic. A few years ago I added cross ventilation inside my attic along with soffit vents. The intakes passively draw in air from my soffit vents.

J

budolskie · Nov 17, 2013

Looking good j, a bet u end up with more dry bud then me haha

jondamon · Nov 18, 2013

budolskie said:
Looking good j, a bet u end up with more dry bud then me haha

Oooh I dunno lad. Your canopy's looking immense!

Remind me again, what's your best weigh in from your 600w?

J

budolskie · Nov 18, 2013

I've had 13oz dry off 9 plants in that veg room under a 600 that was one of my first tries, then next was 10 dry off 4 big bud in the same veg area under 600 but I then had extraction fans and a lot more knowledge, I recon there would of been bout 7-10 on the 3 the pigs took a week before harvest...
This looks to be my best so far like on health wise and training, just the pm on the caramel sucks

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