1st grow..light ?

greenleaf

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have 18 plants going...started them in cow manure compound..found that dont drain to well...switched them tomiracle grow potting soil..seem to be growing good but my lighting is just a 17 watt flouro..i know i need different lights...just not sure what...growin in closet of about 3by3...any suggestions?....thx
 

Hawk

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What's your budget?

With your space and number of plants I'm guessing you'll reach the limits of your budget before you could go overboard on lighting. So the question becomes, how much light can you afford? And don't forget to add in the cost of ventilation. If your looking to spend $50, the choices are different than if you've got $200.
 

cheetah2007

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too much plants for this space..if u want 18 plants...they must be grown from clones ...... SOG style baby!!! !!! lol u will need a 600W hps, very good ventilation(cooltube is prefered), some nutriens, and lot of patience :D :D rofl :D all imo
 

pppfemguy

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is this guy serious??.....hold on a minute this guy had 18 plants and 17 watts of light wdf more plants then watts of light lmao this dude will be waiting years for his grow lmao@ 17 watts WOW JUST WOW
 

kirky2k4

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for the space you have you will be maxed out at about 2/4 plants lol and i would grow just 4 plants under 1 600w hps as its ok for flowerin and veg
 

greenleaf

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ok guys this is my first grow..and im a lady not a dude and like i said in know i need different lights just wanted some input on what kind...someone said..20 watt flouros would get me started....and im thinking since this is my first grow ill be lucky to have 4 make it lol...any help suggestions is appreciated...i just burn it ..never grown it...lol
 

greenleaf

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ok..started them 06/04/08 they are on their 3rd set of leaves...any suggestions on how to do my ventilation from a closet? Ihave a fan on them and they seem to be doing pretty good...dont care to spend some money to do it right...just need the know how....need to know where i can purchase the 600watt hps also....thanks so much
 

pppfemguy

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ok..started them 06/04/08 they are on their 3rd set of leaves...any suggestions on how to do my ventilation from a closet? Ihave a fan on them and they seem to be doing pretty good...dont care to spend some money to do it right...just need the know how....need to know where i can purchase the 600watt hps also....thanks so much
go to google and type in 600 watt high pressure sodium ballast and 1000 things will come up gooood luck on your grow hope all works out!!!!!
 

natmoon

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If your in a cupboard with no ventilation do not get a 600watt hps,you will fry them and your cupboard if your not careful.
Only buy a 600watter if you can adequately vent the area i.e. with aircon or an exhaust system,more cash again.
I would recommend starting of with a couple of 150-250 watt high output cfl systems with reflectors if your in a tight space.
Having said that if your willing and able to buy adequate ventilation equipment then doing so will obviously give you a better yield:blsmoke:
 

kirky2k4

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i got 600w hps wi ballas full set up off ebay for 40 wi free delivery so got a bargin realy depending on where ur growing i dont use ventelation just a few fans on them
 

pppfemguy

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i got 600w hps wi ballas full set up off ebay for 40 wi free delivery so got a bargin realy depending on where ur growing i dont use ventelation just a few fans on them
u should be ok i got 4 fans on mine it keeps the room nice and i got a 1000 watter so u should be fine
 

Florida Girl

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First off...welcome to the site!!! You took the ribbing about your wattage to plant ratio in good stride.... you'll fit right in here ;)

You said 3 x 3 CLOSET ... The word closet makes me think you mean 3' Wide by 3' Deep? If so what is the HEIGHT??? The reason I ask is if it is a standard closet it is too small for 18 plants.... but I'd hate to see you pull any before you know which are females and which are males.... Is there any way you can put in shelving to maximize the space while your plants are young and not so big?

Here's a picture from Farm Friend's grow room to give you an idea of what I mean:




That kind of shelving comes in all sizes .... I have one in a small closet myself. You can see how she has the lighting hanging from the shelving. If you can put something like that in your closet then you could bring all 18 along for a while... perhaps until you get some pre-flowers so that when you do have to pull some... it won't be the girls ;)

When you get ready to flower you can pull out the shelving.... and keep your strongest 6-9 girls .....hopefully you get that many. :D
 

pppfemguy

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First off...welcome to the site!!! You took the ribbing about your wattage to plant ratio in good stride.... you'll fit right in here ;)

You said 3 x 3 CLOSET ... The word closet makes me think you mean 3' Wide by 3' Deep? If so what is the HEIGHT??? The reason I ask is if it is a standard closet it is too small for 18 plants.... but I'd hate to see you pull any before you know which are females and which are males.... Is there any way you can put in shelving to maximize the space while your plants are young and not so big?

Here's a picture from Farm Friend's grow room to give you an idea of what I mean:




That kind of shelving comes in all sizes .... I have one in a small closet myself. You can see how she has the lighting hanging from the shelving. If you can put something like that in your closet then you could bring all 18 along for a while... perhaps until you get some pre-flowers so that when you do have to pull some... it won't be the girls ;)

When you get ready to flower you can pull out the shelving.... and keep your strongest 6-9 girls .....hopefully you get that many. :D
pretty smart and gotta love florida lol
 

greenleaf

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Thanks Florida...closet space is 3 ft wide and id say about 7 to 8 ft tall...still not knowing exactly what i needed for lighting in that space i went and got 2 150 watt cfls today. they have 2600 lumens each...sylvania soft white...am i on the right track with this or do i need something different?...I was gonna get 3 or 4 more but wanted to find out b4 i waste the money...thx for the help
 

Florida Girl

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Thanks Florida...closet space is 3 ft wide and id say about 7 to 8 ft tall...still not knowing exactly what i needed for lighting in that space i went and got 2 150 watt cfls today. they have 2600 lumens each...sylvania soft white...am i on the right track with this or do i need something different?...I was gonna get 3 or 4 more but wanted to find out b4 i waste the money...thx for the help
Well... if you are going to try to bring all 18 along for a while then you still have no where near enough light. I'm not a lighting expert...but I use a HID in my grow tent and 3 100 watt CFLs for my early seedlings... and I only start 3 at a time.

I'm thinking you would need a minimum of 10 CFLs in that space.... but that's really just a guess... I could be way off. Personally I think you should do what I mentioned above.... rack and fluorescent shop lights.... they are pretty cheap and easy to put up.

Good luck :D
 

greenleaf

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yeah , that does look like a good set up. Guess i shoulda done some more research b4 i i got them babies started...thx for the help
 
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