1st grow fail need recomendation
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mydixiewrecked
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get some pro mx, throw in some worm castings, perlite and vermiculite, good to go.
tranquility
Active Member
fox farms soil ive heard is the best you can get ...but i dont know if it has perlite and all the other goodies in it so you might need to buy some of that too
Rabbi Reefer
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I am so sorry to hear of your misfortune.
Hydroponics, as you have found, is not kind to the newb. Very finicky, delicate. I deduce that you are indoors, from your hydroponics venture. The next thing you ought to share with us is the importance of organics to you. This answer will steer you in one of two directions. I use organics. In my opinion, the taste is without comparison. Many successful gardeners use chemicals, and thus require different things from their medium.
If you decide on organics, and do not have your own compost, I urge you to find a local soil/compost company that has or is organic(s). Many of these companies sell only wholesale to retailers, yet some allow bulk orders for individuals without a wholesalers number. Either way, they will inform you of a local retailer if you ask. You will want a high quality mix very low on nutrients, or none at all. You will want a mix with excellent drainage, and plenty of air flow. You can do this on the cheap(er) if you get soil, peat, vermiculite, etc... separately and make your own mix. Recipes for this are negotiable, hotly contested, and all over this site.
If an organic lineup of nutrients is not in your arsenal, and chemicals are
then you'll have to wait for another to chime in and help you.
No matter what your route, stay away from Miracle Grow soils, and any product with time released nutrients. This will harm your plants after about a month or so by burning them with too much food, and flushing a mix with time released nutes will undoubtedly bring about a PH issue.
I am a long winded fella, and you asked for a brand name... not fair. i gave one brand name and advised against it! I am sorry. If I tell you my brand, it will be a dead giveaway to my locations general area as the locale is in the name. With no brand loyalty, the three best things are 1.) local, 2.) local, and 3.) local.
I hadn't heard of my brand until I looked locally, and Ive never been happier with big names, heavily marketed pretty labels. We as consumers absolutely do pay for marketing and labeling in the purchase price. Support your local industries and businesses. They value your patronage more sincerely, they are more accessible, and they need to prove themselves over the industry leaders.
Hydroponics, as you have found, is not kind to the newb. Very finicky, delicate. I deduce that you are indoors, from your hydroponics venture. The next thing you ought to share with us is the importance of organics to you. This answer will steer you in one of two directions. I use organics. In my opinion, the taste is without comparison. Many successful gardeners use chemicals, and thus require different things from their medium.
If you decide on organics, and do not have your own compost, I urge you to find a local soil/compost company that has or is organic(s). Many of these companies sell only wholesale to retailers, yet some allow bulk orders for individuals without a wholesalers number. Either way, they will inform you of a local retailer if you ask. You will want a high quality mix very low on nutrients, or none at all. You will want a mix with excellent drainage, and plenty of air flow. You can do this on the cheap(er) if you get soil, peat, vermiculite, etc... separately and make your own mix. Recipes for this are negotiable, hotly contested, and all over this site.
If an organic lineup of nutrients is not in your arsenal, and chemicals are
then you'll have to wait for another to chime in and help you. No matter what your route, stay away from Miracle Grow soils, and any product with time released nutrients. This will harm your plants after about a month or so by burning them with too much food, and flushing a mix with time released nutes will undoubtedly bring about a PH issue.
I am a long winded fella, and you asked for a brand name... not fair. i gave one brand name and advised against it! I am sorry. If I tell you my brand, it will be a dead giveaway to my locations general area as the locale is in the name. With no brand loyalty, the three best things are 1.) local, 2.) local, and 3.) local.
I hadn't heard of my brand until I looked locally, and Ive never been happier with big names, heavily marketed pretty labels. We as consumers absolutely do pay for marketing and labeling in the purchase price. Support your local industries and businesses. They value your patronage more sincerely, they are more accessible, and they need to prove themselves over the industry leaders.
Not really interested in organics but thank you rabbi. And thanks for the warning about miracle grow.
Thanks for the other suggestions but isn't fox farm pretty expensive? I'm already heavily invested in my set up and don't want to go way overboard in buying soil.
Does the perlite vermiculite and promix come premixed by any company?
Thanks for the other suggestions but isn't fox farm pretty expensive? I'm already heavily invested in my set up and don't want to go way overboard in buying soil.
Does the perlite vermiculite and promix come premixed by any company?
Bonzi Lighthouse
Well-Known Member
If I were a weed smoker and was having to pay for premium bud I would use the best:
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golddog
Well-Known Member
You will need about 5 bags @ 1.5 cu. ft.
So $25 at Walmart or $75 for the good stuff.
How much do you have invested ?
I have about $600 in it alreadyYou will need about 5 bags @ 1.5 cu. ft.
So $25 at Walmart or $75 for the good stuff.
How much do you have invested ?
samtheham420
Active Member
Yea, hydroponics is pretty advanced. I had to do a project on it in adv plant &soil in high school... I never even tried on weed yet; that shit was complicating... But yea I heard fox farms soil is pretty good. I mean, hell I grew mine in my backyard and they turned out decent. Don't be disappointed, a lot of people have messed up their first grow. I burned my plants up my first time. Like learning to ride a bike, it takes practice.
super2200
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http://www.dchydro.com/cgi/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=GRM0&searchstart=72
if your having issues you need to go ahead and start off right and not get cheap shit from home depot. Sunshine Mix or the Bcuzz are two good grow mediums that wont burn your shit up or give bugs in your closet because it sits outside like most home depot crap. no matter what fert you use just go very light or not at all and see how it goes. A lot of the harry home owner type of potting soils will contain food that is time release and this sucks if your not good at just looking at the plant and knowing what may be missing. One of the soiless or non fert added soils will help as you can then choose just about any fertilizer and go waaaaay light until you figure out how to push the limits. Your first goal will be just to get to the end and dont try many of the suggested tricks learn for yourself in your own spot. It costs more because its for professional growers, greenhouses arent using the cheap stuff for a reason. Just get something that has no fertilizer so whatever you use can be used very sparingly
good luck and keep trying
if your having issues you need to go ahead and start off right and not get cheap shit from home depot. Sunshine Mix or the Bcuzz are two good grow mediums that wont burn your shit up or give bugs in your closet because it sits outside like most home depot crap. no matter what fert you use just go very light or not at all and see how it goes. A lot of the harry home owner type of potting soils will contain food that is time release and this sucks if your not good at just looking at the plant and knowing what may be missing. One of the soiless or non fert added soils will help as you can then choose just about any fertilizer and go waaaaay light until you figure out how to push the limits. Your first goal will be just to get to the end and dont try many of the suggested tricks learn for yourself in your own spot. It costs more because its for professional growers, greenhouses arent using the cheap stuff for a reason. Just get something that has no fertilizer so whatever you use can be used very sparingly
good luck and keep trying
super2200
Well-Known Member
Another note everyone is suggesting the ocean forest soil which is good but you will want to go with organic ferts with that as its an organic soil and you should not buy that and then put chemical fertilizer in it as it will kill all the beneficial shit. If your going to use chemical fertilizer then go with the pro mix or one of the others in my previous link. It costs way more than the pro mix and i would not waste that much this time rather get the pro mix and dont add shit just use it later you can add other stuff to recycle it as well if you get good at organics which is the best for taste and flavor.
Thanks for the suggestions, I agree that you get what you pay for. I'm just want to keep the cost down. Well it seems that the general consensus is that there is no going cheap on the dirt. Anymore suggestions? Im not sure that I could get any dirt off the internet tho. Im in an apartment and if I'm not here for the delivery it might raise some questions with the apartment manager.