1st GROW AND MY GIRLY IS SICK

Okay so my girly is 1mth into flowering. From looking at her and growth patterns i would say she's sativa dominant. Now cut me some slack here but i used miracle grow 6mth release. i found out how negative this choice was about a week from starting my flowering cycle. Seeing that no real damage was being done by the time release nutes i figured the stress of transplanting and washing all the mg away from the root ball would be worst than just leaving her. Than about a month ago she started showing signs of mg lock out (probably due to high ph while i was using superthrive). i cured this by simply not using superthrive in the water and all was well. then i started using "bestie bloomz" 0-50-30 npk to supliment the low phos. and k in the soil. I started this with 1/4 the recomended dose and now am up too 3/4 the recomended dose and she seems to love the stuff since i started using it. Now though for the last week little dark brown blotches have been pooping up on the veins of the leaves. Then by the end of the day the affected leaf is almost completely yellow. Then the blotches slowly take over leaf. what can i do here a flush is out of the question seeing how time release nutes are play and last week some idiot decided to total my car so im immobile right now so whatever it is how long do i have before it kills my baby. PLEASE HELP. its like watching my child die. I've put so much work into her it's not even so much about the yeild anymore.

Oh and i planted a clone (second pic) in the soil to maybe buffer the excess nutes and aside for a cfl ending up balls deep in her causing a little burn (hehe anytime you go balls deep a little burn is expected ) she's been doing fine i cloned her two weeks from flowering time and am blooming her at the same time as her mommy. here are some more pics oh the affected leaves are the older ones bud sites and branch tops look great. oh an thats a blue plastic storage box she's potted in seemed like she could spread out more in there

Looks like Nutrient Burn, or Lockout...... Flush her with PH'd water well....

thats total deficiency dude. she needs to be fed.
-N deficiency; lower leaves yellowing and dieing, it climbs up the plant. lime green plant. i can see that a lot of the lower leaves are gone...
-K deficiency; first tips get singed, then all the edges get yellowed and singed. late stage starts getting rust spots at the tips and spreads inwards. also old leaves curl down and new ones may curl up.


pic 6 of post #1 = P deficiency in flowering
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dirtysnowball said:

thats total deficiency dude. she needs to be fed.
-N deficiency; lower leaves yellowing and dieing, it climbs up the plant. lime green plant. i can see that a lot of the lower leaves are gone...
-K deficiency; first tips get singed, then all the edges get yellowed and singed. late stage starts getting rust spots at the tips and spreads inwards. also old leaves curl down and new ones may curl up.
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pic 6 of post #1 = P deficiency in flowering
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I disagree!!!! That is nute burn with lock out. You put the pics up... Where do you see twisting up and curling in any of his pics? Did you even read the post? the guy is at 3/4 strength beastie blooms thats way to much and he is trying to say the superthrive is the cause..... Yea maybe if used half the bottle. But since there is no NPK value in suprer thrive he is wrong also.

Bro you can do what you want but that is not a def....... That is burn stop with the beasties and flush her and catch the run off see what the PH is of the run off. Let me know... Then use plain pHd water for two waterings. Then a small dose of N she could use some maybe 1/4 strength i would not go over 500 PPM total with what you add!!!!! Make sure your ph is adjusted to 6.8 is ideal but im willing to bett yours is gonna be around 6.0 on the run off maybe even lower.

Alright check it out it says in the post flushing is outta the question it would completely over nute my plant. Miracle grow uses osmocote which releases fertilizer everytime you water so flushing would make things so much worse. Now genius superthrive may not have an npk value but it's Hella acidic it has a ph of like 4.8 so yes that can cause a ph fluctuation and cause magnesium lock out but that was a month ago. Now over fert causing n and k lock out might make sense. 3/4 recommended dose of beastie bloomz wouldn't do it now feeding every watering may do it. Since I can't really flush my soil can I make it through another watering cycle because I watered not yesterday but the day before with pure ro water and 3/4 tblsp of beastie bloomz. I have never checked my ph because I'm scared that if it is off I might screw it up more trying to fix it because I don't think mg is ph balanced but my beestie bloomz.

IEmpire457 said:

Alright check it out it says in the post flushing is outta the question it would completely over nute my plant. Miracle grow uses osmocote which releases fertilizer everytime you water so flushing would make things so much worse. Now genius superthrive may not have an npk value but it's Hella acidic it has a ph of like 4.8 so yes that can cause a ph fluctuation and cause magnesium lock out but that was a month ago. Now over fert causing n and k lock out might make sense. 3/4 recommended dose of beastie bloomz wouldn't do it now feeding every watering may do it. Since I can't really flush my soil can I make it through another watering cycle because I watered not yesterday but the day before with pure ro water and 3/4 tblsp of beastie bloomz. I have never checked my ph because I'm scared that if it is off I might screw it up more trying to fix it because I don't think mg is ph balanced but my beestie bloomz.

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Well it sounds like you got it figured out! You new growers and thinking more is better makes me LMFAO. Why dont you figure out how to check PH and use base nutes before adding boosters.

I'm not saying I know everything I'm not using beestie bloomz as a booster if you read my post I'm using it to suppliment the .07% of available phosphorus in the soil. If I use any ferts it would be almost impossible to dose because osmocote is a very inefficient delivery method and the dose fluctuates. I know how to take my ph but since yet again the osmocote fluctuates in how much is released each watering so the ph changes each time regardless if I add just water or my beestie bloomz so my ph level is a moot point because my water is a ph of 7 and bestow bloomz is ph balanced and keeps my water at seven. My run off constantly fluctuates from 6.3 to 6.9 so yeah it gets slightly low but like I said that's the osmocote that miracle grow uses. If you really don't know what your talking about don't try to pretend like you do and reply to a post sounding arrogant. If I'm supplimenting low availability of certain nutes than it isn't a booster anymore. I can't use and mutes because I already have a high N factor in the soil since I'm using miracle grow. Beestie bloomz was the only nute I found with high p-k but no N so go kick rocks unless you are actually going to try to help me.

I may be a little new to growing weed but I'm no newbie to horticulture the only reason I used that toxic a$$ miracle grow was cause the guide I was using was jank and said it was cool.

Im not gonna argue with you.... I have better things to do.. I dont come on here a whole lot but when i do i dont give out BS advice...... As far as you growing shit great... now teach your self how to grow smoke. When i read your posts they sound like a buch of smoke and mirrors.. I dont no who told you that beastie blooms is not a booster... BUt If you know how to grow why are plants so streched and lanky they look like shit! Truth be told you are some book smart F*** tard that dont know jack s*** about the way growing really works. I bet if i looked at your room the plants are not even close to being in the rite enviorment.

Here ya go have a look for your self MR horticulture. And you tell me were fox farm says tou use there booster as a base nutrient.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/FoxFarm-Soil-Schedule.pdf

Dude my bad I did kinda come off as a prick I'm sorry. It's just man your right she does look stretched and lanky but she didn't about two weeks ago it's so frustrating man like she was perfect now it's like a bomb went off in there. I wish I knew how to post a pic from my iPod(which I'm using right now) of her just two weeks ago. Then the worst part is I can't flush and I don't know how I would go about getting the soil out of the root ball for a transplant. should I just trash it and start over or can I salvage her? Sorry dude for being such a douche, it's just so frustrating when after like 2 1/2 months of perfectness everything goes wrong. Oh and the dude at my hydro store told me to use the beestie bloomz so it could supplement for the low p-k.

Oh and I'm using CFLs (bad guide really bad) but I have 7 of em. 1 x 25w 2700k, 1 x 11w 2700k, 2 x 42w 2700k, 3 x 25w 6500k. My temp stays about 78-85, humidity 40%, grow room is my closet with a card board umm idk octagon that is all wrapped in Mylar. The top light has the two 42w and 1 25w hanging in a lamp shade wrapped in mylar pretty nifty. I have two fans one in one out and neither on my plant directly

Ok now i will help you. I just want you to know that my first post was not directed at you. It was at the other guy i have read a few of his posts and he is giving terriable advice and is gonna kill peoples plants.

I dont have time to help right now i will be back on in a few hrs. You could tell me some info so i can get a better idea how to help you. Also it sounds like you need to get some equipment, can you afford to spend some money? This not a must but to be profiatable it is or honestly to make it worth the risk i personally want to utalize my time and space to its full...


First off the setup you are using.
Lights fans room size PH/PPM meter ect.......

Then about the grow.
soil nutes water R/O Tap Well Botteled.... Strain/bag seed?

if i were you and you think its burning and want to transplant then get some soil with no ferts in it get a bucket ready fill it half full of new soil water it then grab your plant by stem slowly working it out of its bucket you can use water hose to get excess soil off your roots then carefully place it in you new pot trying not to touch your roots
adding soil pack it down firmly
if you got superthrive add some to your water then water plant and you should be good

miracle grow soil or not, i agree with phishfan. That plant needs to be flushed. Take it to the bathtub and flush with a mild nute solution 3 gallons per every gallon of soil and then flush again with pure water twice more.

dude the guys right you have nute burn stop arguing and flush your damn plants...i had THE SAME symptoms with THE SAME brown spots turning into THE SAME dead curling greyishin/brownish/yellowish ends. When your plant eats its nutes, its leaves behind salt and not regularly rinsing the salt out with a GOOD FLUSH will cause this. i had it with 3 grows using humboldt nutes

I cant help, if you dont l answer my questions.