1st from Seed Grow (Cowboy Style)

i still havent got through the last lump of that stuff its like having a creamy bucket x 5 i get palpitations n generally feel uncomfortable. weird i know feels more like a panic attack than being chilled to the bone. and im in an upstairs flat now n have people all round so ill have to do my BHOing round at a pals...

so is that a yes im gonna extract oil from the blokey plants or nay?

thats a big NAY its not really worth it i dont think there was no crystal on the plant it was just sticky as hell

Don Gin and Ton said:

easy now smokeh! its all in the growfaq man and if you want to see it done in vid form youtube 'how to clone weed' these days folks learn more from youtube than you do in school! lol

as for spending another ton on a cooltube id save yourself the money the reflector on them is as youd imagine quite small and tubular in comparison to a normal one yeah you can put the light 2 inches from your plants but what if youve got a meter square grow tent your going to have to raise it by a foot or two to get a decent coverage for all the plants!? if youve got a vent at ground level coming into the shed all you need is a bit of duct so youve got FILTER>FAN>DUCT>OUTSIDE VENT just my humble 2p

i got my ducting and stuff from starfish supplies on ebay they do kits for venting n stuff pretty cheap http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Starfish-Supplies-Ltd__W0QQ_armrsZ1

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i was only gonna go for cooltube coz the space was quite small and may get hot. so was just gonna put ducts either side with a fan in to take the heat from the HPS and then a duct for intake and extract with fan and carbon filter.

i really dont know where i going with it,lol.

the shed has no apertures and im not making any.

u rekon id get away with just a hps and reflector with just ductwork for the main chamber? the temp is about 60 -65 in there atm. come summer it will get warmer. i just wanted to use the tent in the shed so i could extract and supply from within the shed. havnt got any time to work anything out atm but ill have to do it soon b4 i place an order for my HPS

hmm i reckon you could get away without the tube if you've got fresh air coming in from outside but if your going to use the tent in the shed without fresh air coming in then the cooltube will be cycling warm air around.

Don Gin and Ton said:

hmm i reckon you could get away without the tube if you've got fresh air coming in from outside but if your going to use the tent in the shed without fresh air coming in then the cooltube will be cycling warm air around.

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cool, no tube then.

yes i will be using tent in the shed. i should still be able to supply and extract though shouldnt i? are the apertures in the tent on different sides to each other?

i think when i buy the tent and HPS, ill ask the guy on the phone which would be the best duct, fan and carbon filter to buy. there really helpful.

How oftern does ur filter need changing?

- sorry for the noob questions. i learnt alot about growin in a month then forgot some of it and now dont have the time to read it all again,lol.

smokeh said:

cool, no tube then.

yes i will be using tent in the shed. i should still be able to supply and extract though shouldnt i? are the apertures in the tent on different sides to each other?

i think when i buy the tent and HPS, ill ask the guy on the phone which would be the best duct, fan and carbon filter to buy. there really helpful.

How oftern does ur filter need changing?

- sorry for the noob questions. i learnt alot about growin in a month then forgot some of it and now dont have the time to read it all again,lol.

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the fan will pull air from inside the tent through its vents at the bottom and push it through the filter so its not smelly but its still going to be enclosed within the air inside the shed i.e cycling the same air. tent usually has mesh covered vents on the sides and a drawstring on the roof or high up on one side.

i've been using my filter for 6 months now and its still working a treat! wasn't an expensive one and apparently you can re use the carbon inside by washing it or you can buy a new bag of the stuff for a few bar.

the daftest question is the one you don't ask smokeh! you've got the basics covered its just fine tuning to optimise your setup now

Don Gin and Ton said:

the fan will pull air from inside the tent through its vents at the bottom and push it through the filter so its not smelly but its still going to be enclosed within the air inside the shed i.e cycling the same air. tent usually has mesh covered vents on the sides and a drawstring on the roof or high up on one side.

i've been using my filter for 6 months now and its still working a treat! wasn't an expensive one and apparently you can re use the carbon inside by washing it or you can buy a new bag of the stuff for a few bar.

the daftest question is the one you don't ask smokeh! you've got the basics covered its just fine tuning to optimise your setup now

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didnt quite understand.

theres a hole at the bottom and top of the tent. i assume bottom hole will be intake and top will be exhaust as hot air rises anyway. that will control the chamber temp.

just read carbon filters last 12-18 months and can refill them for half the price so thats not bad.

i hate the setup parts,lol. i just want good pot! really want my blue cheese and skunk#1 to turn out great, like my avatar,lol. dont even know how long im going to be growing for so abit shy on spending like 300quid if its only gonna be used once. suppose i could stick it all on ebay after im done...

im gonna check some websites now to see if i can find anything cheaper becoz grotec said they do a price match. see if i can get it ordered and done with.

thanks

smokeh said:

didnt quite understand.

theres a hole at the bottom and top of the tent. i assume bottom hole will be intake and top will be exhaust as hot air rises anyway. that will control the chamber temp.

just read carbon filters last 12-18 months and can refill them for half the price so thats not bad.

i hate the setup parts,lol. i just want good pot! really want my blue cheese and skunk#1 to turn out great, like my avatar,lol. dont even know how long im going to be growing for so abit shy on spending like 300quid if its only gonna be used once. suppose i could stick it all on ebay after im done...

im gonna check some websites now to see if i can find anything cheaper becoz grotec said they do a price match. see if i can get it ordered and done with.

thanks

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no worries man were all after great bud and not paying through the nose for it!

yeah each side of the tent there's an oblong hole covered with mesh to let air in and in the roof there's a drawstring hole so you can put the fan/filter out so its sucking air from the vents at the bottom through the filter/fan at the top( where the heat rises to) having a constant flow of air goin in at the bottom out at the top but without fresh air coming in from somewhere the heat isnt going to vent its just going round in circles through the vents and the fan/filter.

ill take a few pics tonight n post so you can see exactly what im on about. i get what ya saying about not wanting to blow loads of cash, but just think its paid for itself 1st crop the second one is all gravy dude. or you could ebay it and recoup the costs but you know youve got the growing bug now ahahaha

yep, i kind of do wanna spend the 300 on the setup. whats that, 2 ounce of shit bud round here. where as id get at least 2 oz of decent bud from a grow = paid for its self.

i have no idea how im going to get fresh air in. i suppose there will be some air flow in a shed but not alot. dont wanna make any holes either.

maybe ill just get a hps for now an see how i go,lol.

smokeh said:

yep, i kind of do wanna spend the 300 on the setup. whats that, 2 ounce of shit bud round here. where as id get at least 2 oz of decent bud from a grow = paid for its self.

i have no idea how im going to get fresh air in. i suppose there will be some air flow in a shed but not alot. dont wanna make any holes either.

maybe ill just get a hps for now an see how i go,lol.

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does your shed have windows? thats exactly what i'd do lol get the hps n see how hot it is if its not that bad then its all good eh! just remember plants need oxygen man. i know you dont want to make holes in the shed but youd see a massive increase in end product by putting a 4inch hole in and out of the shed without it looking like your doing anything untoward...

roll the dice see how hot it gets?!!?

well it got up to like 80f when i was running 6 x 125w CFLS in the summer last time. only running a couple fans in there for air movement around the plants so i have no fresh air supply anyway. this is the only option i have so i guess ill just have to make the best of it. just buy a 600w hps for 70quid and im away. already got my nutes etc so ill see how it turns out!

good luck man ill be watching!

id post a picture of the seeds that poped and are growing but i dunno how to resize and its fuckin massive (thats what she said) so i wont.

lol k......

my clones are hanging in there! just... the rootriot/propagator ones look a bit wilty, the ones in the bubbler look exactly the same as they went in?! good thing i spose...

anyway pics for ya smokeh,

flaps ooot! heh heh heh

my clones are hanging in there too in my prop and jiffys and clonex lol. Im using smaller jiffys than im used to, these ones are 30 mill accros so they like half as fat as the ones in used to but that should be good cuz ill see roots sooner.

thanks. think ill just be going with a 600 and shade. it should do the trick. or at least see how it goes anyway

faster turn around all round !! man i hope it works out i could do with a bit of good luck at the mo

smokeh said:

thanks. think ill just be going with a 600 and shade. it should do the trick. or at least see how it goes anyway

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yeah you should be kool tho im kinda hoping its not cos that means we might actually get a british summertime hahaha like thats happening...