1st from Seed Grow (Cowboy Style)

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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Dug these old pics out FYI....where it all started for me.......










If you want a good laugh check out how I started out. Man looking back I can't believe all the plants didn't die..... https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/48750-way-much-ph-up.html

we all have to start somewhere
Tis sooo true.....

not as happy as me fella! cheers tho! its hopefully plain sailing now we've sorted the plan of action out.

normally when the plant matures fully the hairs will recede into the calyx as the plant gives up looking to catch pollen on the pistols to pollinate and make seeds for next year. why the lower buds on the DQ have done it i think was because that particular cola was getting more direct light than the top ones?! but thats only a guess tbh
I find that almost all of mine do that in the last few weeks as the tops try to put on a new growth after watering them.. The lower ones are saying fuck it and the tops are saying wow I just found some more food. If you wait long enough the lower ones will try to grow again but it happens in my tops first.....

cheers man, i just want shot of it out my tent so i can start over with less in n see if i can make of the DQ next time. but as thermonuclear as the bud might be if its not putting out 2 oz plus a plant its got no place in my garden.

no room for slackers at dons house
im planning on vegging them less due to the stretch and i really think 3 zips is very optimistic but we'll see i guess. but if its half as tasty n strong as folks rave about it ill be happy

my sentiments exactly man, im like a weed sponge i read as much as i can with the hope ill get better hahaha
Some advice my friend is if you want to pull more from a streatchy bitch like the DQ just top it and veg longer. You will keep them lower and make alot more product. Watch my thread over the nextfew weeks and see for yourself.....
 

Don Gin and Ton

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kool man will do but to be honest i did top them and vegged them for like 5 weeks if i have to veg longer i dont care how good the bud is it fucks my rotation and is dropped. maybe i should have left them single main cola SOG style i should have done a side by side really
 

Don Gin and Ton

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im going to be treating myself to a uv bulb but running it on a rotation of like

1st 3 wks of flower in the first 3 hours of 12 light
2nd 3 wks middle 3 hours of 12 light
3rd 3 wks last 3 hours of 12

so its mimicking the sun and a red spec cfl for the lower buds under the main canopy, every grow i see that has supplemental under lighting be it strip light or cfl has popcorn that would pass as bud from the canopy top

anyone know if its UV a or B that i need i think its B but want to be sure
 

SnowWhite

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b im fairly sure.
yeah, me too...check T's thread man to be certain.

Stepping up I see Don....nice!

I use a couple of red spec 125W enviros for my supplemental lighting. Not all the time, just when needed. My room seems a lot duller when I turn them off.
 

Don Gin and Ton

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i got myself a 300w dual spectrum one so i can use it in my veg cab if needs be, i need to make a reflector of some description next, actually i know a man that has a couple spare.

yeah man im lookin at the uvb and the bulbs are spendy man like 40-50 squid without the fitting which was bout the same price. but that for a 300w after doing some reading i hear the lower watt ones aren't worth bothering with, no penetration.

but i think im going to leave the uv till next month when cash is a bit more flowing...
 

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

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I've read this article and several like it. That's why i added the 3 UVB reptil lights to my setup..

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/160189-uvb-cannabis-science-report.html
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UVB/Cannabis science report
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The estimates below is my own estimations based on article mentioned below and actual research on the matter.

Article: UV-B RADIATION EFFECTS ON PHOTOSYNTHESIS, GROWTH AND CANNABINOID PRODUCTION OF TWO Cannabis Sativa CHEMOTYPES.
By: JOHN LYDON, ALAN H. TERAMULA and C. BENJAMIN COFFMAN.
Department of Botany, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, USA.

My estimated conclution: "Add 2 x 23w UVB lights / m2 to your grow room and increase THC levels up to 30% in buds."

Read this science article regarding UVB lights effect on drug type cannabis originated from high heigted tropical areas with highly elevated UVB levels. In experiments with plants they have shown an increase of THC concentration levels in leaves from in a range from 22% - 48% depending on UVB intensity. In flower trichomes they got an increase between 15% - 32%. Thats staggering news! Now, this is laboratory conditions with UVB lights flitered to emitt in 300 nm wavelenght UVB light. It's widely known that THC UVB absorption properties range between 280 - 315 nm, so that is important. There's no longer any doubt in my mind that UVB boosts the THC potency of drug type cannabis, and that dont having UVB light is not realising the full potential of our dear plants! Time for a change imho!

What id like to do is to get an estimate on how indoor growers could reproduce this results at home. To get an estimate on what lights, how much lights, and so on, wich could be beneficial. According to the scientists they used 240w UVB, but i dont know on how big of an area. The scientists says that 13,4 KJ / m2 is the level of UCB used in their trials, and that is as much as the UVB levels in 3000m altitude in mountains where strong marijuana is found to grow. According to the article marijuana grown in these UVB rich areas has a 33% increased THC content compared to the same marijuana grown at sea level.

Looking at wikipedia, i found that 1w = 3600 J (3,6KJ), but that seems a bit high compared to the ammount used by scientists, so I devided it to 0,36 KJ instead thinking i made some error somewhere. If i divide 240w (amount UVB scientist used) in 5m2, i get roughly 72w/m2, wich is around 14KJ according to my estimates, and that fits exactly and seems to be a fair estimate, so i think im on the right track here! Then, a 13w UVB light would give 4,5 KJ. Thats what i use, and that seems a bit lesser than needed. 2 x 23w UVB / m2 in the right spectrum should to the trick to produce massively strong cannabis with approximately up to 30% increased THC production in buds! I noticed the UVB bulb I use has the perfect spectrum for cannabis, repti glo 10.0. They come in 13w and 23w strength, and is avalible in sorted zoo shops.

Repti glo 10.0 UV spectrum chart:


It need to be stressed that UVB light is harmful to humans and plants that dont have developed defences to it (like cannabis has). When having such a bulb in the grow room, it need to be switched of when entering to room. Cancer is a known effect of UVB light exposure.


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UVB/Cannabis science report
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(PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT MY POST ORIGINAL POSTER TETRAHYDROCANNA LOCATED FORM A DIFFERENT WEBSITE)





The estimates below is my own estimations based on article mentioned below and actual research on the matter.

Article: UV-B RADIATION EFFECTS ON PHOTOSYNTHESIS, GROWTH AND CANNABINOID PRODUCTION OF TWO Cannabis Sativa CHEMOTYPES.
By: JOHN LYDON, ALAN H. TERAMULA and C. BENJAMIN COFFMAN.
Department of Botany, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, USA.

My estimated conclution: "Add 2 x 23w UVB lights / m2 to your grow room and increase THC levels up to 30% in buds."

Read this science article regarding UVB lights effect on drug type cannabis originated from high heigted tropical areas with highly elevated UVB levels. In experiments with plants they have shown an increase of THC concentration levels in leaves from in a range from 22% - 48% depending on UVB intensity. In flower trichomes they got an increase between 15% - 32%. Thats staggering news! Now, this is laboratory conditions with UVB lights flitered to emitt in 300 nm wavelenght UVB light. It's widely known that THC UVB absorption properties range between 280 - 315 nm, so that is important. There's no longer any doubt in my mind that UVB boosts the THC potency of drug type cannabis, and that dont having UVB light is not realising the full potential of our dear plants! Time for a change imho!

What id like to do is to get an estimate on how indoor growers could reproduce this results at home. To get an estimate on what lights, how much lights, and so on, wich could be beneficial. According to the scientists they used 240w UVB, but i dont know on how big of an area. The scientists says that 13,4 KJ / m2 is the level of UCB used in their trials, and that is as much as the UVB levels in 3000m altitude in mountains where strong marijuana is found to grow. According to the article marijuana grown in these UVB rich areas has a 33% increased THC content compared to the same marijuana grown at sea level.

Looking at wikipedia, i found that 1w = 3600 J (3,6KJ), but that seems a bit high compared to the ammount used by scientists, so I devided it to 0,36 KJ instead thinking i made some error somewhere. If i divide 240w (amount UVB scientist used) in 5m2, i get roughly 72w/m2, wich is around 14KJ according to my estimates, and that fits exactly and seems to be a fair estimate, so i think im on the right track here! Then, a 13w UVB light would give 4,5 KJ. Thats what i use, and that seems a bit lesser than needed. 2 x 23w UVB / m2 in the right spectrum should to the trick to produce massively strong cannabis with approximately up to 30% increased THC production in buds! I noticed the UVB bulb I use has the perfect spectrum for cannabis, repti glo 10.0. They come in 13w and 23w strength, and is avalible in sorted zoo shops.

Repti glo 10.0 UV spectrum chart:


It need to be stressed that UVB light is harmful to humans and plants that dont have developed defences to it (like cannabis has). When having such a bulb in the grow room, it need to be switched of when entering to room. Cancer is a known effect of UVB light exposure.


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UVB/Cannabis science report
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The estimates below is my own estimations based on article mentioned below and actual research on the matter.

Article: UV-B RADIATION EFFECTS ON PHOTOSYNTHESIS, GROWTH AND CANNABINOID PRODUCTION OF TWO Cannabis Sativa CHEMOTYPES.
By: JOHN LYDON, ALAN H. TERAMULA and C. BENJAMIN COFFMAN.
Department of Botany, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, USA.

My estimated conclution: "Add 2 x 23w UVB lights / m2 to your grow room and increase THC levels up to 30% in buds."

Read this science article regarding UVB lights effect on drug type cannabis originated from high heigted tropical areas with highly elevated UVB levels. In experiments with plants they have shown an increase of THC concentration levels in leaves from in a range from 22% - 48% depending on UVB intensity. In flower trichomes they got an increase between 15% - 32%. Thats staggering news! Now, this is laboratory conditions with UVB lights flitered to emitt in 300 nm wavelenght UVB light. It's widely known that THC UVB absorption properties range between 280 - 315 nm, so that is important. There's no longer any doubt in my mind that UVB boosts the THC potency of drug type cannabis, and that dont having UVB light is not realising the full potential of our dear plants! Time for a change imho!

What id like to do is to get an estimate on how indoor growers could reproduce this results at home. To get an estimate on what lights, how much lights, and so on, wich could be beneficial. According to the scientists they used 240w UVB, but i dont know on how big of an area. The scientists says that 13,4 KJ / m2 is the level of UCB used in their trials, and that is as much as the UVB levels in 3000m altitude in mountains where strong marijuana is found to grow. According to the article marijuana grown in these UVB rich areas has a 33% increased THC content compared to the same marijuana grown at sea level.

Looking at wikipedia, i found that 1w = 3600 J (3,6KJ), but that seems a bit high compared to the ammount used by scientists, so I devided it to 0,36 KJ instead thinking i made some error somewhere. If i divide 240w (amount UVB scientist used) in 5m2, i get roughly 72w/m2, wich is around 14KJ according to my estimates, and that fits exactly and seems to be a fair estimate, so i think im on the right track here! Then, a 13w UVB light would give 4,5 KJ. Thats what i use, and that seems a bit lesser than needed. 2 x 23w UVB / m2 in the right spectrum should to the trick to produce massively strong cannabis with approximately up to 30% increased THC production in buds! I noticed the UVB bulb I use has the perfect spectrum for cannabis, repti glo 10.0. They come in 13w and 23w strength, and is avalible in sorted zoo shops.

Repti glo 10.0 UV spectrum chart:


It need to be stressed that UVB light is harmful to humans and plants that dont have developed defences to it (like cannabis has). When having such a bulb in the grow room, it need to be switched of when entering to room. Cancer is a known effect of UVB light exposure.
 

kmoo

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don those buds are lovely. yer simply not allowed to stop growing lol tell yer lady a wife on the forum thinks she's being a bit unreasonable - then watch the fight unravel lol

and snowwhite - wow man, you have got dedication to keeping the growing going and your lady happy, kudos to you for managing that. it sounds like it can be a tricky balance.

i suppose i'm lucky being the grower in my relationship and being the wife lol my hubby is as easy going as a guy can get. he browses the forums too coz he finds it interesting, gotta say he did get a bit freaked out when a dude on another thread got a bit weird and claimed to know where i live, but thats only coz i totally had a stalker last year and the dude got SUPER creepy (wanky voice messages etc)

anyway lol i'm a blabberbus
 

SnowWhite

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and snowwhite - wow man, you have got dedication to keeping the growing going and your lady happy, kudos to you for managing that. it sounds like it can be a tricky balance.

i suppose i'm lucky being the grower in my relationship and being the wife lol my hubby is as easy going as a guy can get. he browses the forums too coz he finds it interesting, gotta say he did get a bit freaked out when a dude on another thread got a bit weird and claimed to know where i live, but thats only coz i totally had a stalker last year and the dude got SUPER creepy (wanky voice messages etc)

anyway lol i'm a blabberbus
Yep...dedication is the word. To both my weed and my woman. Two of the most important things in my life....and our pets :)

I wish my mrs still smoked and that, but she quit a few years ago to take a pretty high end job, they threaten drugs tests! Myself, I say f*ck that!! But she never used to smoke as much as me anyway so it would of been pretty silly for her to turn down such a good opportunity.

So I'm lucky she still lets me grow really. But I need someone like her in my life to keep me in check!

Sorry to hear about your stalker....sounds freaky for sure!! There's some proper weirdos out there!!
 

Don Gin and Ton

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yo don what's the UV bring to the table?.....bongsmilie
increased potency bigger trichs and resin through the roof so ive read so far but too much and your talkin skin cancer or worse severely burnt plants:sad:
I've read this article and several like it. That's why i added the 3 UVB reptil lights to my setup..
wicked info 5 cheers, confirmed a lot of the myths ive been reading :bigjoint:
Not quite sure what the fuck happened there? must be still high..
man i quick dried and tried the DQ poor pheno at just shy of 8 weeks and its pretty fucking hardcore, really pleasant high, i think at full maturity im going to have a problem toking it. maybe ahahah
lmao...thats some good weed 5
damn straight willy!
don those buds are lovely. yer simply not allowed to stop growing lol tell yer lady a wife on the forum thinks she's being a bit unreasonable - then watch the fight unravel lol
thanks Kmoo! im daft but not stupid hahaha telling the missus i think shes being unreasonable is cause for fireworks, telling her my pals from the interwebz think shes out of order may result in loss of privileges hahaha
and snowwhite - wow man, you have got dedication to keeping the growing going and your lady happy, kudos to you for managing that. it sounds like it can be a tricky balance.

i suppose i'm lucky being the grower in my relationship and being the wife lol my hubby is as easy going as a guy can get. he browses the forums too coz he finds it interesting, gotta say he did get a bit freaked out when a dude on another thread got a bit weird and claimed to know where i live, but thats only coz i totally had a stalker last year and the dude got SUPER creepy (wanky voice messages etc)
wtf thats totally out of order. man therers some wierdo's out there. in fact just the other day i had a phone call from america some chick asking for Samuel i said wrong number this is don she was all oh sorry.... so what are you wearing. im wearing slippers and a hat. i told her im putting the phone down you freak. told the missus then she phoned back claiming to be this girls mother?!!? twas all i could do to stop my lass going blitzkrieg.

told the crazy to stop calling or id phone the law. she didnt call back. it was
Yep...dedication is the word. To both my weed and my woman. Two of the most important things in my life....and our pets :)
keep the wife happy and life falls into place man! church!bongsmilie
I wish my mrs still smoked and that, but she quit a few years ago to take a pretty high end job, they threaten drugs tests! Myself, I say f*ck that!! But she never used to smoke as much as me anyway so it would of been pretty silly for her to turn down such a good opportunity.

So I'm lucky she still lets me grow really. But I need someone like her in my life to keep me in check!
I can tell and im sure its not just us two snowy but if we didnt have a leash we'd be out of control and probably in bother with the law. hahaha im still pretty close
Sorry to hear about your stalker....sounds freaky for sure!! There's some proper weirdos out there!!
 

SnowWhite

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lol yeah....she keeps me on my leash. I'd have a couple more 600 watters in the spare room otherwise for sure. hahaha. But I'd be a sad and lonely man! :( You can only live the bachelor life for so long. All my mates are having kids now ffs! Days of gaming, beers, pizza and smoking all day long will be an even rarer occurence soon. Unless I'm doing it on my own, like I said....lonely without the mrs! Fortuantley, my mrs enjoys a bit of resident evil too! :) She's really good at the puzzles! hahahaha
 

Don Gin and Ton

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lol yeah....she keeps me on my leash. I'd have a couple more 600 watters in the spare room otherwise for sure. hahaha. But I'd be a sad and lonely man! :( You can only live the bachelor life for so long. All my mates are having kids now ffs! Days of gaming, beers, pizza and smoking all day long will be an even rarer occurence soon. Unless I'm doing it on my own, like I said....lonely without the mrs! Fortuantley, my mrs enjoys a bit of resident evil too! :) She's really good at the puzzles! hahahaha
yeah my girl knows an accepts i need my boy time haha tho its a fine line, i have been partaking a little too much midweek of late, with no excuse other than its xmas!
my mrs spent all day yesterday in the wastelands of fallout3 lmao
you have a top girl westy...that's for sure man. A keeper! LOL
and she makes the best cup of tea lol, can skin up and occasionaly likes it up the wrongun(jk) lol
lmao....many a true word said in jest! hahahahahaha ;)
hey shhhh she might read this and then ill never play that way again lmaobongsmilie
filth :lol:
 
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