1h/1h for veg

Cold$moke

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I hate hearing the nature excuse as we do a lot of stuff to our plants that nature never intended
Like breeding seeds for example lol

If you want nature go smoke twigs that grow wild lol
I want the best biggest i can do and somtimes we have to fick with nature to acheive that.

Not trying to argue just.my views is all
Peace
 

Fubard

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Bet the houseplants don't like flowering under 5/19, and I doubt an autoflower would do much either, never mind a photo strain.

We bend things a bit, that's true, but there's a difference between "bending things" and driving a coach and horses with a plough on the back through them, and this batcrap "1/1" plan is beyond that.

And I wouldn't eat My hat, I'd eat YOUR hat. My hat cost me money, your hat cost me nothing. I'll waste your money instead of mine, if it's ok.

Now, which sauce would be best....
 

Cold$moke

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I want to say dutch farmers are e,perimenting with light recipes to enhance their crops.

Theres some cool stuff going on

Speaking of which we just had a nice long earthquake
Gota love alaska lol
 

Cold$moke

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Houseplants go into a state of slow growth
But far from. Death or being unhappy.

Dont trip man its just an oppinon

I suggest a nice jalapeño sauce :)

But i like my hats too lol
 

growingforfun

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Regarding costs, here in where I live a "regular" person, not one who is classed as "protected" due to disability/age/low income/etc, on a single tariff meter will pay approximately €0.28 per kwh including distribution costs and tax, or $0.33 per kwh. So that's almost $4 per day for a 1kw load on 12/12. People like myself who get the "sociaal tarief", those who are "protected", pay just over half that.

Now, we have no idea what boards he uses, or how many of them. What I do know is that my light pulling a maximum total of 200w on for 12 hours per day comes in at €0.43 per day including distribution costs and taxes, or $0.53 per day, thanks to the missus being classed as so disabled (I'm catching up with her). I don't run it "off peak" because it's in my utility room and we do need to get to the washing machine.

So I can understand where he comes from on electricity prices, running a BFO HID light is out of the question to me even at my tariff as I cannot justify that cost at all, but he has to understand that 12 hours use is 12 hours use whether that is in one block of 12 hours or 12 single hour blocks spread across the day. He MIGHT be able to save by using "off-peak" electricity if it is available with his supply, most are but some are still just a single meter tariff, but ultimately his "cunning plan" is going to cost him a shitload more due to failed grows and his boards lasting well under half as long as they should.


PS. As I was writing this I told the missus what his plan was. Now she knows squat about growing anything under lights, she can grow cherry tomatoes on the window but that's it, and she's finally stopped laughing.

My point is, that if its a personal grow it only takes around 200-400 watts to grow plenty every 2 months. I had a single small light on 24/7, 1dark area, and simply moved the plants in flower every 12 hours and left the veg plants. It was simple, cheap, and i had plenty.

If he is using a bigger light or a few lights then the costs shouldnt be a issue for obvious reasons. Theres just so much smarter ways to go than the 1 on one off. The plants WILL herm out an seeds suck.

Anyone whos been around knows theres good reasons for the hours we keep, nobody is the first to try it, they just dont know it yet.
 

Cold$moke

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Mabey its the most highly held secret in gardening!

the 1 on 1off recipe for instant herm seeds lol
Thats how those chuckers did it .....jk
 

Fubard

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My point is, that if its a personal grow it only takes around 200-400 watts to grow plenty every 2 months. I had a single small light on 24/7, 1dark area, and simply moved the plants in flower every 12 hours and left the veg plants. It was simple, cheap, and i had plenty.

If he is using a bigger light or a few lights then the costs shouldnt be a issue for obvious reasons. Theres just so much smarter ways to go than the 1 on one off. The plants WILL herm out an seeds suck.

Anyone whos been around knows theres good reasons for the hours we keep, nobody is the first to try it, they just dont know it yet.
That's the thing, he hasn't actually said what his setup is apart from saying he uses boards.

His options are simple. Swallow the costs or cut down the size of his grow.

I have my little LED panel, pulls around 160-170w but I allowed a little more to make my calculations easier, and that is the actual price I pay per day. My single plant is loving it, every time I look in in the morning I can see the growth in the flowers and she has a bit to go yet. What an equivalent QB would do is something else, but even then we're still looking at a very small use in the grand scheme of what a normal house uses per day, I probably use more electricity making tea per day than my lights cost (the kettle's always on here) so unless he's running a little farm bedroom where the entire area is covered from wall to wall in QB's I can't see how he could possibly save any significant amount on his bill just by buggering his lights and plants up like he thinks he can.
 

Gquebed

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Nothing wrong with trying to minimize costs. But this 1/1 idea is about as retarded as people driving spikes through the trunks of their plants....hoping to increase yields.

Oh hey there's an idea... instead of trying to minimize your cost why not try to maximize your yield for that fixed cost, which essentially is the same thing?

And really how much you going to save even if this retarded idea did work? A couple bucks per ounce?

Yeesh....

I got a friend who will spend $10 in gasoline to drive all over town looking to save $2 on the item that he wants to buy but doesnt actually neex... same thing here...
 

Stink Bug

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I'm sorry but 1hr on 1hr off will only stress your plants and lights. Go with the Gas Lamp method. Your lights will only be on 1hr longer in a 24hr period vs 1 on 1 off. Do a bit of research on it. You'll find once you switch to flower the lights on times decreases as flowering progresses. It's a tried and true way of growing annuals. Although it was not developed as a way of saving on the power bill.
 

roony

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An hour on hour off seems like the same amount of electricity as 12 on 12 off the light still runs 12 hours either way or maybe I misread
 
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