1g/watt just a MYTH??C

I keep hearing this 1g per watt... but after reading several dozens upon dozens of journal i don't see this even with hydro, c02, and great genetics.

Take a clone and flower it with little to no veg time for 8 weeks = 1 g per watt? i just don't see it.

Is it a myth? I usually see the .5/watt.

a good scrog/sog can easily hit 1g/watt even more lol

not really 1g a watt if its no veg time...

1g per watt would be more like 1 plant per square foot.
say 9 plants under a 600 watt .. easy 1g per watt.. but not much chance of that if you dont veg...

if you didnt veg for much time .. then probably about .5 per watt

1000 grams would be how many ounces?

Ahhhh...

Well, I got over 39 ounces with 9 plants under a eye hortilux 1000 watt hps w/ light mover and Co2...

I consider that extraordinary

Did you do it all in less than 2 months or 9 weeks (from clones)? you hit around that 1k mark. 1092 grams.

CLOSETGROWTH said:

1000 grams would be how many ounces?

Ahhhh...

Well, I got over 39 ounces with 9 plants under a eye hortilux 1000 watt hps w/ light mover and Co2...

I consider that extraordinary

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how many plants are you thinking off doing.. and under what light.. and what is the grow space...
answer that and ill tell you what you will get with little or no veg.

Day to Daze said:

how many plants are you thinking off doing.. and under what light.. and what is the grow space...
answer that and ill tell you what you will get with little or no veg.

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does it really matter... it's little or no veg. but i want some journal or some method that shows that they are doing 1g/watt. shit even .75/watt is fucking godly from what i've seen.

looked at a lot of ebb and flows. haven't seen any large DWC grows but I think this may be the answer??? the only thing i could think of is perhaps a vertical grow but that seems so far advanced... maybe a light mover added to the mix? basically i'm looking for the closest and best combination to get to that mythical 1g/watt.

I've looked at a lot of grows. The 1g per watt seems to be the golden egg we all aspire for, but few reach.

ive got a vertical grow built at the moment.. seeds germinating now ... 3 6foot by 5 foot walls of plants.. and 2 600hps between them. 62 plants total... i expect around 3g per watt (over 7lb).. and even more when i upgrade to 1khps.

oh but i veg for a few weeks

Day to Daze said:

ive got a vertical grow built at the moment.. seeds germinating now ... 3 6foot by 5 foot walls of plants.. and 2 600hps between them. 62 plants total... i expect around 3g per watt (over 7lb).. and even more when i upgrade to 1khps.

oh but i veg for a few weeks

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no way.... how are you expecting 3g per watt? i've seen 10k+ grows that are only getting .8-1watt.

what's your set up? pics? build?

how are you rationalizing this 3g/watt - based on previous grows? journal?

Well I'm sure some might argue this with me but think about this one .....the SUN produces 400 trillion trillion..... ummm yeah alot of watts so does that mean if someone flowers outside they'll get a gram per watt... the answer is obviously no.( and no distance of the sun 93 trillion miles versus the 24 inches of a 1000 w hps is not relative in this equation.) The sun still produces more heat and luminosity than any bulb can match.

The total outcome for yields are MOSTLY based upon A.) Genetics.....B.) the care the plant receives as in its growing conditions like amount of space, nutrients, etc...

Yes we all know watts and lumens are crucial for plant growth as we all know 1 20w cfl aint gonna get you crap, but when you consider the mathematics involved when it comes to yield generation then it just doesnt add up to an exact science when you estimate a figure like 1g per watt.

In order to give the plants enough light power to throw out enough lumens for their MAXIMUM YIELD OUTPUT then you need around 150-200 perhaps more wouldn't hurt watts per plant, then let your nurturing(topping FIM LST etc...) and nature take care of the rest

oh and i forgot to mention how long you let it vegetate too LOL

KUDOS

if you want to grow in 8 weeks with no veg .... go for it .. and in asnwer to your original question.
you probably wont get 1g/watt with no veg.. unless you can cram about 40 plants under your light... 600watt and over.

if you let it veg for a couple of weeks.. then it would most probably double..

why risk hald the yeild by not vegging... seems pointless..

anyway thats my 2 cents...

just check out some grow journals on verticalgreen.org people there are well over the gram per watt range.

i've got 20 hash plants with 2 days veg in my aeroflo under a 1k hps, with a mover and co2. pretty sure i won't hit the elusive gram/watt but i'll be over .5 these plants got 4 days less veg time than i like but i was in a crunch.

donkey.420 said:

i've got 20 hash plants with 2 days veg in my aeroflo under a 1k hps, with a mover and co2. pretty sure i won't hit the elusive gram/watt but i'll be over .5 these plants got 4 days less veg time than i like but i was in a crunch.

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you have a mover? have you grown with a mover before? how much space do you cover with 1k? what do you think the max is?

do you think a 600 would cover the same amount of space?

pftek said:

you have a mover? have you grown with a mover before? how much space do you cover with 1k? what do you think the max is?

do you think a 600 would cover the same amount of space?

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Well if u wud like my 2 cents-been growing DWC for a # of years. 24 clones in 1 bucket 500x750 (under bed buckets) 2 buckets per 600w HPS & got regular 1lb per lamp. Have been running 20 lamps until I got busted. This was always straight 12/12 from clones rooted. But this is short of ur magical 1g/w. Its 456g per 600w!

u coud not vegie them as they wud be too big & shading everything out. I also trimmed the bottom shoots out so my cleaning had been very quick.