1800W HEMPY SCROGs (Vertical/Horizontal) Simultaneously in High Definition! (video)

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I made the Hermie plant into a ball of hash last night, just smoked some... yep, screw that plant... I am consuming it as it was just a hassle. It had a very mild case of mold too because it was in the unfinished damper side of my basement where all the utilities are and such, the dryer causes tons of humidity too. So I had to do ISO, I didn't want to take the chance of anything else and it worked just fine. I am feeling just fine right now, it's dirty hash and nothing special but does the trick and made something out of that plant I was just sick of looking at. I haven't scraped it all up yet but I probably only got about 4 grams maybe it was a quick rinse though ISO was on the trim/buds for only 30 seconds or whatever necessary and I may run it all again once it dries back out, probably not though.

I am probably going to make Wax out of my trim/popcorn buds when it comes to the real harvest though, that's what I want... some nice golden pressed hash would be fine too though.

The bubble hash I made from my last harvest was made with trim, sugar leaves, and a few fan leaves (made it in there unfortunately).. so it was rather green, but as you say it does the trick, and I still have a little gram or two ball left that I throw in on joints when buddies come over. It took me three or four days to make, and theres not much of a market for hash where I'm at, so I only sold a little bit - but anyways it was worth the work. You never know when you might run out of herbs and need it. Plus its awesome for road trips/travel. Dogs aren't going to smell it, and it doesnt fall apart if it gets crushed in the suitcase and stuff. Comes in handy for sure.

I have a 2x4 foot tent I am going to use that I have to setup tomorrow, I think I might move the 3D's into it for the dark before the chop tomorrow, not sure if I am actually going to bother with that or not but for the two free standing plants I think I should have enough room in there to do that if I am lucky. They're kind of big... I may just skip the whole dark period and go straight for the chop/hang... seems to make a marginal difference based on what some people have said and I don't want to give the plants any more opportunities to pick up PM if they are all crowded together in a dark, cool place.

But honestly, moving them seems like a hassle, they are tied up to hooks in my ceiling right now so they don't fall over (well individual colas anyway) so maybe the dark thing is just not an efficient use of my efforts at all. If I did not have different strains on different schedules I could cut the lights in the room they are in now but that's not feasible either. Better planning next time around, need more space or more equipment to really help out though.

This whole time I had the 3D and the Wappa mixed up... the SCROG and plant in back are Wappa, not 3D according to my clone source seeing a shot of them. They got mixed up when they were brought here, glad I didn't get close to chopping yet as I was considering it I have been flushing the wrong plants though so i'll be dragging things out a few more days to correct the situation and take the other 3 plants instead. Funny, but I suspected it from Veg.

Wappa SCROG yesterday (Day 48 I think)

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Well I chopped down 2 of the 3D's and they have been H202 washed and hung in my new tent, the problem is I can't hang all 3 plants it's a 48x24x60" tent and I basically filled it up with just the 2 plants (cut individual branches, unfortunately since I had to wash them) I don't know of the H202 bath stuff actually works that well unless what I still have on the underside of some sugar leaves and really tight into the budsites are actually trichomes but they look whiter and way thicker to be trichs. I also think I 'washed off' a lot of trichomes as well, anytime I would move the buds I would see tiny white/clear perfect specs almost like dust washing away in the water when I'd move the buds. I am HOPING it was just mini bubbles or even PM (but that looks like an oily film on surface) so who knows. Seem to be a little less frosty now but maybe it's my imagination.

Actually not a big fan of the rinse at this point but I haven't gotten to finished product so who knows.

I need to devise a better way to hang the branches though since I am out of room already and only harvested two of the plants. I suppose that's a good thing to have no room left in that size tent from only hanging two plants though... I hate the buds on the 3D plants though, skimpy and just generally unimpressive the plants gave me problems the whole time (unless that's just how they grow) all funny looking with tiny buds everywhere. Interested to see what weight I get off of each I have them hanging on individual 'drying rigs' I made out of fencing that way I'll know what I got from each specific plant.

Humidity is around 40-42% that's the best I can do at the moment but I should be higher... haven't checked in a while though, maybe it's gone up since I closed the tent.

Stupid little buds. I wonder what kind of haul that is... any guesses? tons of small buds, I topped like 3000 times too many, those are cylinders made of fencing and they are filled with buds hanging around the entire surface so it's not just ones in the front or anything. This is 2 of my 3 Third Dimensions (my runt plants) the Wappas are gonna be a different story.

Got 3 plants hanging now... giving the others flushes and H2o2/Milk sprays a couple more times then stopping a few days before harvest to hopefully have them perfectly clear of any PM... once these plants are down everything is done and I am going to gut the room, Sulfur burn the whole basement (after cleaning the entire thing and getting it organized) from this point not sure what I am going to do but I want to re-do everything in terms of layout and system. The hempys are awesome but I want something a little more hardcore plus more 'self contained' and mechanical in how it operates.

Going to build an Under Current probably, that was my original plan before I even started this anyway, I am thinking possibly one that's only 4 sites (I can have up to 12 plants) but would focus on making them beastly rather than having my full 12 plants. Leaves room for mothers & cuttings anyway... I am sure I could pull massive yields off single plants in a well setup undercurrent, Either that or I will try something else which I am not constantly dealing with the run off and cleanup associated with it.

Still not sure what kind of yield I may have from these skimpy plants but I am guessing several ounces... I think the 3 Wappa's will get me substantially more than these 3 Third Dimensions did... I'm thinking along the lines of 3X as much per plant... although I do think the 3Ds may have not been growing well and that had a huge impact on the overall weak result.

Day 53... Chop soon, switched to mostly MH lighting last couple days just for kicks... might turn the lights off entirely I'm not sure yet, one of those plants should go probably a week longer than the Wappas I see no ambers on it. The wappas all have a few ambers scattered about and several cloudy trichs... will probably do it soon waiting until the 3D is done hanging otherwise I have nowhere to go with them. Stupid tent is way too small for my current drying arrangement.

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DrGribble said:

Got 3 plants hanging now... giving the others flushes and H2o2/Milk sprays a couple more times then stopping a few days before harvest to hopefully have them perfectly clear of any PM... once these plants are down everything is done and I am going to gut the room, Sulfur burn the whole basement (after cleaning the entire thing and getting it organized) from this point not sure what I am going to do but I want to re-do everything in terms of layout and system. The hempys are awesome but I want something a little more hardcore plus more 'self contained' and mechanical in how it operates.

Going to build an Under Current probably, that was my original plan before I even started this anyway, I am thinking possibly one that's only 4 sites (I can have up to 12 plants) but would focus on making them beastly rather than having my full 12 plants. Leaves room for mothers & cuttings anyway... I am sure I could pull massive yields off single plants in a well setup undercurrent, Either that or I will try something else which I am not constantly dealing with the run off and cleanup associated with it.

Still not sure what kind of yield I may have from these skimpy plants but I am guessing several ounces... I think the 3 Wappa's will get me substantially more than these 3 Third Dimensions did... I'm thinking along the lines of 3X as much per plant... although I do think the 3Ds may have not been growing well and that had a huge impact on the overall weak result.

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undercurrent DWC is super awesome, growth rates are great.

I have 3 jars full so far and a ton left to trim from the 3D's still... I figure around an ounce of dried bud per 32oz jar roughly... I think I'll probably get 5-6oz off the skimpy 3D's but that's all speculation at this point I could be way off. The Wappas I am hoping for twice as much but who knows I might really be over-estimating things and I won't know for a good 7-10 days from now probably I gotta finish trimming the 3D's before I can even take down the Wappas and there's still a mystery bag seed plant going strong at day 53...

I smoked half a j... taste is terrible as to be expected, stuff I smoked was in jars for maybe 2 days and only had 3-4 days of hanging so it dried a bit quick (it's the more airy, spindly stuff, yet still solid buds) but it did not burn extremely easily as I think there's a tiny bit of moisture still in there yet the effect is fine, I am feeling pretty good yet I think that will be enhanced noticeable as well as it finishes up... hopefully I did not jar these ones too soon but I have been shaking/rotating the jar to move them all around several times a day and leaving the lids off sometimes for hours still as I don't think they're really dry enough for more than just a few hours sealed up. I do seal them overnight until I wake up though. I never went to the paper bag between hanging though I might dump them all out and give them a few hours of air I am not sure yet as they are relatively crispy on the outside when I trimmed them... sticky too though.

Good to hear that you are finally getting to enjoy some of the fruits of your labor, as far as the moisture content of those buds go its most definitely better to be safe than sorry 3-4 days hanging seems pretty short to me, most people hang them for 1-2 weeks, from what i have heard the general rule of thumb is they are dry enough when the the stems snap.

Yeah stems snapped on everything I pulled down, it's only 45% humidity in my tent and the plant had probably 20+ individual branches, thus they were skinny and full of smaller buds which dried faster, I still have some of the same plants hanging, today would be 7 days I believe all the larger stuff is still pretty much up there but probably has been ready to come down. I have an entire Wappa hanging in there too, takes me a few hours to harvest and trim a single plant, that can't be right lol.

mang it can take quite some time. if you are trimming alone than a single plant can take anywhere from 15 minutes to and hour. its really a bitch in scrog, because the limbs are all flimsy from being help up by the screen.. so when you take them down to trim they all keep flopping around, getting everything sticky and stinky and shit - as well as making it near impossible to hold while trir hamming.

also, i used normal scissors the first time which was retarded. spring loaded trimming shearers are a must for more than 4 or 5 plants, or your hands will be obliterated by the end


PS> hope all is well dude, i liked your grow, and see that its been awhile since your last post. enjoy the fruits of your labor holmes, carefully though!

Whats up doc? Where you been at, i to have enjoyed watching your grow and I'm looking forward to seeing your grow completed.

Great show, great experiment!

There is a fine line between genius and insane, and you're walking it! Lol!

IMO I don't think the vertical scrog was too effective, and I think the light was hanging a little too low..from my observation, it looked like it would have been more beneficial to have a horizontal scrog, and hang the light above the plants. just my opinion, and I never would have came to this conclusion if it were not for you!

out of curiosity, what did your final yield end up being?

and whats your opinion on the horizontal scrog vs the vertical -- do you think the horizontal scrog is more effective??

Hey guys, I see I had some unanswered responses in here and it's been a while... I never did a full weigh in but I would guess I was around a LB, unsure exactly and that was with issues toward the end, 3 plants grew rather bad and I am just tossing that up as a strain I don't want to bother with again. I think next time around I will be having a little bit better luck with final product, I mean it was good enough for me to smoke from my pax but I did not really enjoy it that much smoking in a traditional way. It did the trick effects wise but taste was just extremely disappointing. Gonna be a lot better next time around, especially now that I have a sulfur vaporizer to alleviate any chances of PM again. I am REALLY hoping that outbreak came from the clones I received and not my own fault.

I am not going to run the vertical this time around, I did not have sufficient room for it and it ate up some of my space, I really wish my area was larger but I can't exactly expand... might throw a couple tents in there to supplement on space though. We shall see.

I am also going to keep it more simple this time, less training and going for crazy bushes, I think I am going to just top once or twice and let things grow up this time, no crazy training because all it did was give me a headache, a more perpetual approach this time is what I am after I don't mind harvesting smaller plants more frequently -- that's really the best way of doing anything IMO plus I don't have to worry as much about having too much since I do this as a legal medical grow and want to keep it as legit as possible.

Awesome, can't wait for round 2!

-Cash