16000+ watts medigrow: og kush+ 13 x 1kw hps + 3 x t5 badboys + grotek = *HAPPY JOY*

Yeah since sweet comes in flavors, such as grape, chocolate, it does make it seem like a bud "sweetener" and the hydro shops play on that. But it does in a way add to the flavor, through scent and terpine profile. But it won't make your buds smell or taste like grapes or chocolate.

Its basically sugars,carbs, and magnesium sulfate.

The reason I like sweet is because towards the end of flowering mag is very important, but calcium is less important and can even be bad in excess as it builds up in the medium. So I start using more sweet, for the mag and the sulfur, without the calcium. And then I use less cal mag.

okay okay. i might as well come out and tell you: i'm deliberately teasing you.



if you look real close you can see the li'l "mushrooms"....

hey kitty went through about 20pages and dam kitty very nice setup! im sub

u little tease mrs kitty lol...

very nice Mello

Ok enough with the teasing... show us those dank nuggets kitty!

Ps. Which strain is that?

Og looking ojesus is that nice! I got little clear mushrooms all over me weed too.!!

getting damn close......

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nice work miss kitty...

Was that a little purple I saw??? Pretty kitty very pretty . I love the eruption of colas up high I am using this grow and heaths old one as my guide to go vert ! Stoked to start end of this week.. At about .75 g per watt looking for 1 per one with kushes just wanna be more efficient with the equipment I have instead of throwing more space and light (although we got both ) at the issue... Bet it smells nice in there.

Fucking fabulous grow kitty! My compliments to you and the Tom. But don't ever tease me again with "mushrooms," I happen to love tripping balls once in a great while. lol.

A few questions/comments:

That wall of ballasts it has to get fire hot, right? I remember you might have clarified why you keep them inside the grow room, but you could you tell us again? I used to just keep 2 digital ballast in the grow room, and they really would produce some heat in that corner. It's not temps on the plants that worry me as much as the temps on the other ballasts, excessive heat kills digital ballasts pretty quick out of the 4 digital ballast I own , I've replaced 1 of them 2 times, and the other 3 times due to heat. They were also the 2 shittier of the 4 ballasts as well, but heat was still what killed them.

Also, since you have nuggage growing up above and down below do you also have oscillating fans down below? I'm absolutely paranoid of pm all the time and I stick fans down below on just my little lolipopped plants under my horizontal 600's.


But I'm thuper therial when I say, that is some damn fine looking OG.

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getting damn close......

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Damn, Kitty, you outdid yourself. Very nice BAVERB settup. I dig the seemingly random light spacing...seems to be lighting from just every direction. Random Lighting....Hmmmmm....RANLIBAVERB.

I have a question, and I don't mean to be critical. The plants look like they have a little claw going on. Mine do that if I don't flush. But, I've noticed that alot of live soil growers like yourself have that going on. What's the deal with that? Obviously they're healthy as fuck. What else would I expect from an Canadian Asian Dirt Farmer? You can play in my growroom anytime.

collective gardener said:

Damn, Kitty, you outdid yourself. Very nice BAVERB settup. I dig the seemingly random light spacing...seems to be lighting from just every direction. Random Lighting....Hmmmmm....RANLIBAVERB.

I have a question, and I don't mean to be critical. The plants look like they have a little claw going on. Mine do that if I don't flush. But, I've noticed that alot of live soil growers like yourself have that going on. What's the deal with that? Obviously they're healthy as fuck. What else would I expect from an Canadian Asian Dirt Farmer? You can play in my growroom anytime.

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I have that going on too and I heard a good possible explination in my case. Let me run it by the pro in here. He said it can be caused by nitrogen toxicity. Here's the quote;

Your problem is likely caused by too much nitrogen in your growing medium or soil. Normally plants will have an overall DARK green look and have delayed maturity. New growth is often lively and plant transpiration will more times than not be high. Nitrogen toxicity will cause leaves to have “the claw” look. The tips will point down but the leaves will stay up as if when you bend your fingers downwards. Leaves can also be twisted when growing… it mainly occurs in new growths. Roots will be under developed along with the slowing of flowering. Yields will be decreased, because to much nitrogen in early stages of flowering slows down bud growth. Water uptake slows down from the vascular breakdown of the plants as well. Vascular damage does not repair itself.

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What do you guys and gals think? I noticed your leaves are really dark green too ms kitty.

jozi: the wall of ballasts has been waiting patiently for plexiglass covers, which will seal them and their heat on a separate vent system from the rest of the room, the fallout from which will be better air exchange in the ballast zone and good clean heat. (part of the reason we didn't make it out of the 60%s as far as turning the lights up all the way this summer). there's a small swamp cooler in that corner right now but that's just a temporary fix.
there are hella oscillating fans all over the place, right at shoulder-blade level (mr kitty likes to take the cages off them *grrrr*) and a floor blower in each corner.

cg & beans: i've been noticing the claw and i have no idea what it's about. over the years i've noticed that different plants behave differently in hydro and soil, i'm wondering if this is a factor here. hashplant, for instance, looks like a normal plant in rdwc. and then you take that same clone and stick it in dirt and *bang* the retarded claw. none of the nl crosses i've ever grown nor afghanis did that, although i never grew any of them in hydro so i have no basis for comparison. since pretty much all the girls have it, i tend to think it's not nute-related -- most nute problems i've ever had are more pronounced in certain areas of the room (ie toxicities show up in the first 10 plants i water, deficiencies show up in the last 10, that sort of thing).

beansly, as far as the nitrogen toxicity, while i'm not ruling it out altogether, i kind of doubt it. here's why:
a) we grow in mostly unamended soilless mix, and the amendment we do use only has trace amounts of amino-form N -- certainly not enough to cause toxicity at the END of the flowering cycle.
b) the claw only became pronounced when we started tapering nutes moving towards flush, and hasn't improved with the cessation of nutes; nitrogen is the next most mobile element after the Big 3 (hydrogen, carbon, oxygen) -- toxicity tends to be fleeting (in the case of bottled nutes anyway) and should at the very least have shown improvement during flush, which it hasn't so far.
c) the dark green you see is the start of the "fall colours" joedank and i have been talking about; as the plant slows down chlorophyll production, it ups its anthocyanin (red/purple) production, and the resulting transition stage is a darker green that eventually segues into purple. mr kitty doesn't like to start flushing until he sees signs of senescense beginning.

oh and one more thing; the lights aren't "random" per se (we are working with ceiling joists after all); more like "offset rows".

like this.....



it's kinda hard to tell because this is a diagonal shot across the room, but the 2 on the right (that aren't lit) share a joist, the 2 in the middle share a joist (the streak of light by the wires is a reflection off the ballast housing), and the one in the left corner is the start of another row).

maybe once the room empties out we can go over some of the finer points of the setup together....

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAW just read through the whole thread..Fucking awesome..and Comical nice touch with the Futurama Quotes ^_^...And your Vids are Absolutely amazing...I lack the Attention span to sit and make Nice vids with pictures and what not....What programs do you use to edit your video's if i might ask? And also How do you get your vids to show Up in Embed Form..Mine only appear as text links.

thank you!
for embedding, you take the "numbers and letters" part of the youtube url and post between [youtube] brackets... are you familiar with bb code?

for instance. the url for my latest vid is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4A1x6ZXg-I

[ youtube ] s4A1x6ZXg-I [ /youtube ]
should look like this but without the spaces. (had to put the spaces in because it kept reading it as code, silly computers.)

i use windows live moviemaker (free download)... it makes it really easy. there are some cheeeeeeezy effects on there to choose from

edit: learned something new today: the "embed video" button! it's next to the insert image button, you just c&p the video url into it.

Beautiful kitty . Kind of off topic but I think mine are starting this anthocyanin building stage. My red dragons stems are starting to turn red . Great info, one of my favorite threads

real sexy them mrs kitty...hows things this mornin...

Too much N is a known cause of claw, are your leaves dark green? if so back off the elements, the claw slows growth and maturity in most cannabis strains.