dukeofbaja
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Biggest job gain in 3 years....now let's argue!
http://obama.3cdn.net/d9d98835a020fb2394_6bm6bx3yb.pdf
http://obama.3cdn.net/d9d98835a020fb2394_6bm6bx3yb.pdf
160,000 + new jobs
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ink the world
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Is great news, politics aside. I can guarantee that someone from the Tin Foil Hat Brigade (far right forumites) will post its all a lie from the The great Satanic Socialist.
undertheice
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i won't get sucked into an argument here and i'd love to believe that we are witnessing an upturn, but i'm afraid unemployment is still at a little less than ten percent. with over a quarter of those new jobs being generated by government and another fifteen to twenty percent coming from admittedly temporary sources, a single month's good news is hardly a sign that our waste of the taxpayer's money has had any great effect. regardless of how things turn out, we can be assured that the partisan mavens of washington will find the proper scapegoats or heroes to pin the news on and we'll all be in for another round of fruitless finger pointing and empty rhetoric.
medicineman
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This is a classic example of sour grapes, I need say no more.
medicineman
New Member
No shit. They don't count the ones that have been off unemployment for a while, and there are millions of them, people that lost good jobs to overseas and elsewhere that will never get those good jobs back. They are the ones selling crack to those with jobs, LOL.
undertheice
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i can always count on you to show up with a meaningless one liner in an attempt to downplay the importance of the opposition. you should be happy that i have resigned myself (for the moment) to the growth of the welfare state and the loss of liberties that that entails, but i don't suppose you will be satisfied until we are all the willing slaves of big government run amok.
Mindmelted
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Thats Mental(Wo)man for ya
She would drink piss and say it's wine
She would drink piss and say it's wine
Man o' the green
Active Member
Give UTI a break. The loss of liberty is nothing to be taken lightly.
undertheice
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liberty is there for the taking. all that's needed is the desire and the willingness to endure the results of your failure.
dukeofbaja
New Member
What liberties have you lost? Please list...
ink the world
Well-Known Member
How did jobs being added equate to a loss of your liberties?
Man o' the green
Active Member
Every time the government takes or gives we all lose a little liberty. Dependency or taxation both amount to slavery. Only the bare minimum should be tolerated.
Jobs do not mean economic growth. Any government job is a loss of our liberty; taxation and regulation.
EDIT : off topic ->
I am still a free man and I refuse to be told what I can have and not have by any government. Weed or a healthcare plan, it doesn't matter. I'm sick of interference.
ink the world
Well-Known Member
Im sure the guy that was on unemployment last month and now has a job considers it economic growth.
Man o' the green
Active Member
It all depends on where the money is from. If it is a productive job, then that is ideal, I wish they all were. If it is a government 'job', then it is actually worse for us all.
You can't look at economic growth from the view of the individual - redistributing wealth to a government worker does not grow the economy.
dukeofbaja
New Member
I got confused by all those words...what specific liberties has everyone here lost?
Liberty.......The absence of government interference in ones affairs.
Drivers license, car registration, gun registration/background checks/social security/medicare/obamacare/drugwar/etc etc etc are all examples of your liberties being taken away. When you cannot legally do things by will alone, then you have lost a liberty. Does no one know these things anymore? Do you all think a liberty would be the right to walk down the street or something? Liberties are not rights.
Now as far as the unemployment numbers go. From the Bureau of Labor Statistics website:
Establishment Survey Data
In March, nonfarm payroll employment rose by 162,000. Job growth continued in tem-
porary help services and in health care. Federal government employment increased
due to the hiring of temporary workers for Census 2010. Job losses continued in
financial activities and in information.
The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) in-
creased by 414,000 over the month to 6.5 million. In March, 44.1 percent of
unemployed persons were jobless for 27 weeks or more.
They don't count the long term unemployed, makes the wonderful numbers look bad.
Drivers license, car registration, gun registration/background checks/social security/medicare/obamacare/drugwar/etc etc etc are all examples of your liberties being taken away. When you cannot legally do things by will alone, then you have lost a liberty. Does no one know these things anymore? Do you all think a liberty would be the right to walk down the street or something? Liberties are not rights.
Now as far as the unemployment numbers go. From the Bureau of Labor Statistics website:
Establishment Survey Data
In March, nonfarm payroll employment rose by 162,000. Job growth continued in tem-
porary help services and in health care. Federal government employment increased
due to the hiring of temporary workers for Census 2010. Job losses continued in
financial activities and in information.
The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) in-
creased by 414,000 over the month to 6.5 million. In March, 44.1 percent of
unemployed persons were jobless for 27 weeks or more.
They don't count the long term unemployed, makes the wonderful numbers look bad.
laughingduck
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LMAO.. now your going to get into facts, they believe whatever they are fed. The true meter are is non goverment jobs. They are what pay the goverment bills.