12/12+CFL+HB's=perpetual?
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I think i am going to do that but I am going to reveg the females I harvest from this 12/12 from seed run I will continue to put seeds in too keep the box full until I have a couple of moms reveged and then pick the ones whose smoke I liked the best and go from there, I also wont be using the 32oz cups I dont need that much more space I am going to use water/gatorade/soda bottles with the tops cut off they are deeper hold more volume and because of there shape I can fit a whopping 32 in my damn box ala dr bud from ic mag so its about to get interesting guys..... the bottles will be used for the 12/12 from seeds and clones moms will go in 32oz cups...it will take a while to get there but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel...i am still pro 12/12 from seed, but I think I can maximize my output if I keep a couple of moms an run clones..so it will be 32 clones in 2sqft
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well after alot of smoking and thinking I am going to stick with the 12/12 from seed program at least until I order some seeds, but with me implementing thes bottles as the containers I can cram so many of them in a high density 12/12 from seed sog.....and I know there will be males I plcked one today but the entire plant is in the dryer box he will go along with my shake and stems and trim from harvest to make some hash, so even the males will serve a purpose.....I have a few garden shots I will post pics of the new containers tomorrow I did a few transplants today and it wen very good, I think this will take my grow to the nex level but only time will tell
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DarkStar9
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that sounds good too...i was thinking about the same kind of bottles for containers but my friend, as soon as you get the mothers going you'll be too busy cloning and your entire SOG will be just clones.....and you dont need great seeds to find a good mother, my sativa and indica are bagseed, i just took clones before i flowered the original plants, the smoke was great from both so i decided to keep a mother from each...
........i have to admit every once in a while i miss the thrill of waiting to find out if they are males or females and since i have some more bagseeds I've been thinking about adding a new flavor to my Ganjaland...
........i have to admit every once in a while i miss the thrill of waiting to find out if they are males or females and since i have some more bagseeds I've been thinking about adding a new flavor to my Ganjaland...
Well first off let me give mad props to drbud over at IC magkiss-asshe catches alot of shit for his methods over there because they are very unconventional but I am now a true fucking beleiver.....I am using a few of his principles with the type of containers I am using the basic box design etc....but what I find most surprising is that he doesnt keep his plants the traditional 1-2" from his cfls he incorporates the stretch into the grow, he is starting with clones that are 2-3".....I am applying the same principal to 12/12 from seed as it is typical for plants grown this way to be short....and I am happy with the results so far...anyway I am stoned made some iso wash hash last night and wow......there are some updated pics below
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Wolfman Zen
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I'm liking the sound of it all.... And yes, you should get at least 2 different moms for a nice variety of smoke... good luck man, and keep us updated.
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well a few updates had a male to chop so he is drying will get added to the rest of the trim for hash making..... plants are growing pretty fast even though they got a bit of nute burn, in my haste to transplant i went ahead and used the MG perlite I had on hand lazy stoner move, but they are all looking better by the day and getting bigger
I decided to top 4 of them I put the tops in jiffy peat pucks in a little humidy dome in the box we will see if they root in 12/12, when the 4 donors show sex I will ditch any males and plant the girls, 2 for 1 special lol we will see if it works...here are a few garden shots
I decided to top 4 of them I put the tops in jiffy peat pucks in a little humidy dome in the box we will see if they root in 12/12, when the 4 donors show sex I will ditch any males and plant the girls, 2 for 1 special lol we will see if it works...here are a few garden shots
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ideally but clones will root under 12 hours of light just take a little longer and the plant goes right into flower and normally stays very small, at least thats what I have had happen, I wasnt really interested in cloning just doing it instead of tossing the tops....figured if I can get a little bud from them its better than throwing them away....
I will get pics up later, but damn have they grown, and the 4 clones are still green and I think I see new growth on one already
Wolfman Zen
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I don't know about that DarkStar... I think clones develop root faster if you give them some dark time.
Though now I want to try a side by side comparison between clones in 24 and clones in 18/6... and see how they develop from there.
Waist nothing.... i like that. =]
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thanks man they are coming along rihgt now in the box I have 3 26w 6500k 1 26w 2700k and 3 42w 2700k so 230w in 2sqftYo lookin Great man!
Sorry if u already said before, but how many and what wats are those bulbs?
thats what I am hoping for different taste and different types of highs
phillypete
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Word up to the weird people!
phillypete
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Lookin' good BigD! I read through about the first 9 pages and then I quoted on darkstars accurate comment and now I will work back a few pages. I have been intrigued by the all 12/12 grow, I have been dinking around with auto strains trying to utilize the stealth-factor on them, but from what I've seen by going 12/12 from seed and restricting roots a bit you can keep just about anything in 18-24". Now I need to get me some more regular seeds!
You mentioned problems with rockwool...did you ph adjust the rockwool before using it? I don't use rockwool myself, I have found the starter plugs/rapid rooters to be superior in every way. Personally I dislike jiffy cubes for seeds (good for clones), but I'm glad you found something you like (and they are cheaper!).
Oh yeah, what was this strain you are working with?
There was a whole 12/12 from seed forum on one of the forums that had some good info (and then like most threads turned into a pissing contest and/or chat room). Have you seen that?
Keep up the good work BigD! I'm sending good vibes your way.
You mentioned problems with rockwool...did you ph adjust the rockwool before using it? I don't use rockwool myself, I have found the starter plugs/rapid rooters to be superior in every way. Personally I dislike jiffy cubes for seeds (good for clones), but I'm glad you found something you like (and they are cheaper!).
Oh yeah, what was this strain you are working with?
There was a whole 12/12 from seed forum on one of the forums that had some good info (and then like most threads turned into a pissing contest and/or chat room). Have you seen that?
Keep up the good work BigD! I'm sending good vibes your way.
GrowSpecialist
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Those ladies look great. nice work.
IOWNEVERY1
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nice work man. I am about try this myself but might just watch the end of yours to give me some tips. I wanna see how much bud you get from each one
.......thanks for the kind words I have some bagseeds in there and a strain called westside (from a buddy in chicago) its a fast flowering strain (about 7 weeks) most of the hairs stay white even when the thrics are 15%amber, the thread you are talking about is on icmag i post there from time to time
...thanks a bunch it took a while to get it dialed in but its going to pay off
...stick around brother I will report the weights and the results from all of my experiments......
Things are progressing very well, although I did have 2 males show yesterday, they were chopped and dried and added to the hash pile, it made more room for the ladies, all 4 of the plants that I topped showed there pistils, so if the clones take (and it looks like they have) thats another 4 ladies coming as well...on average its taking about 3 weeks for males to show and 4-5 weeks for the ladies .... one of the plants that hasnt shown yet is much taller than everything else in the box...i topeed it today I hope it slows down upward growth.....otherwise all is well I plan to make some iso wash hash today.....a few garden shots, its gettin gcrowded in there 
...on average its taking about 3 weeks for males to show and 4-5 weeks for the ladies .... one of the plants that hasnt shown yet is much taller than everything else in the box...i topeed it today I hope it slows down upward growth.....otherwise all is well I plan to make some iso wash hash today.....a few garden shots, its gettin gcrowded in there 
