i only read the first page of replies till some dick head called me a clown, i am no pro at growing but i do know how big my plants are, i apologise if i sounded rude or like some big time maffia grower..Caligrown you are a clown, i am growing these in a garden shed not dog kennel, the shed measures 3.4 metres long x 2.6 wide and the centre beam is 9foot and sides are 7.5 foot, i will have much better shots tomorrow,,, i was refering to to people who ask the most basic Q's like do i need direct sun or people who say look at my buds, are they ready and its a full male, "where are the buds" i just think alot of people should read a grow book of some sort first before they ask silly Q's on here,,,,,,,,,,,,and as for all you indoor growers i am amazed by your set-ups and nice grow,,,i would prefer hydro smoke anyday for strength, so i was not laugthing at you blokes ok, and i do relise we all have to start some where so beginners will ask silly questions.