10 Fem auto ak, 1 reg blueryder, 1 reg dieselryder and 3 freebies fem

MattyMatt

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Hey man, mids are still better than nothin at all so smoke up. Besides, you wont be smoking those mids for much longer. Keep smoking those mids and your crop will blow you away even more when you get to smoking those buds you're growing.:bigjoint:

Just gotta look at the bright side man. :eyesmoke:
I did..lol and its time to reup tonight, and I told the old lady lets save some money and just get mids again bc it will benefit our buzz and our pockets until harvest time, which is fast approaching! :) thanks for keeping me looking on the bright side.
 

Slater13

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I did..lol and its time to reup tonight, and I told the old lady lets save some money and just get mids again bc it will benefit our buzz and our pockets until harvest time, which is fast approaching! :) thanks for keeping me looking on the bright side.
Right on man. Looking at the pics you posted you have alot to look forward to. Your brains will love you!

I love getting seeds in the mail. It's like XMas. Thats a big selection you will have Kushy.
 

MattyMatt

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also, on my easy ryder, its only about 1 an a bit feet tall and its budding nicely, but my other one is about 2 foot tall and really like spindly an thin what u think thats about ?
same thing here bud. My biggest one is not budding up like the shorties. Its budding, just not as dense and much. Only answer I have for you is this is just what happens with autos. some stay VERY short, and others can top 2 ft. Im just gonna give my BIG girl the time she needs to finish.
 

MattyMatt

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seeds for next grow and the mug they came in. waitin on my other 5. Thanks once again attitude:weed:
gotthe same mug like 2 weeks ago kushy! nuttin like a fresh cup of coffee in it in da morn with a bowlskie or blunt. Gonna be even sweeter when I am smoking the beans that were delivered in the cup! :)
 

MattyMatt

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Right on man. Looking at the pics you posted you have alot to look forward to. Your brains will love you!

I love getting seeds in the mail. It's like XMas. Thats a big selection you will have Kushy.
thanks alot man..I should be posting great pics tonight with a true digi cam. You guys kind words go along ways. My computer is right beside my op so i tell the girls how they are talked of as kind on the eye, and eventually will be kind to the mind! :)

I Love getting seeds in the mail as well..Im like a kid on Christmas morning with a big smile on my face after returning from the mailbox. I look like I am chasing the ice cream truck to the mailbox. I wear my shirt with pride, and sip my java, while I soon will puff puff pass the excitement on that the Tude helps bring me.
 

LowRydin

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Lowrydin, I will answer your questions and I am sure kushy wont mind as we are all growing together, literally! LOL As for the root stimulor bro, thats the best thing you can give the AF.If one step you dont wanna miss, its the root stim. The Big Bloom you mention is basically a root stim so just use it from seed to 6 weeks every watering. Full strength is fine, but 50% will work too. As for the Tiger Bloom bro, the only complaint I have is what you said, the pH is a bitch to get right. I have to let my girlfriend do it now so i dont get frustrated.LOL I think you could run without it, but your gonna want one of the solubles in its place if so. I chose Beastie Bloomz. I am gonna run it with a few of my new Diesel Ryders without the Tiger Bloom to see. But, I can say this, if you dont use tiger bloom then get something like the formentioned to boost phosporus bc I could really tell a big difference in resin production when switching to the tiger bloom and beastie. The only thing I use the first 2.5 to 3 weeks is the root stim and water, which your Big Bloom will be perfect....hope this helps...thx for letting us all bond in your thread kushy! :)
Matty, thanks for the awsome info! I found out that the place I get all my stuff from has all 3 of those FF solubles (open sesame, beastie bloomz, cha ching) along with the Tiger bloom and Grow big. What do you think about the other solubles besides beastie bloomz? Also, should I just get the Tiger Bloom and run it with the beasties like you did? I like what you had said here or in another post about how the PH of tap water by you is 8 and adding the tiger bloom to that evened out your ph, I would either do that or just some PH+ from the pet store. Sorry to basically ask the same question over again but Im really torn between what I should use besides the big bloom (now beastie bloomz as well). Im kind of leaning towards the tiger bloom now, especially after seeing your results matty. I understand how nutes work but these autoflowers are different so we have to adjust accordingly. Im also wondering if I need some sort of Nitrogen supplement during flowering as well, since these autos continue to grow during flowering or is the amount in bloom formulas sufficent?

Also wanted to see what you guys thought of this company, read some pretty good reviews on them and they are in stock at the same place, right next to the FoxFarm nutes.
Kushy, I know you swear by the fish and this stuff looks great, so does the fish/seaweed mix. I know you said you used the fish stuff along with the fox farm ocean forest soil since the beginning so I can see there are no problems, besides the foliar spray. What do you guys think of this company, Neptunes Harvest?

http://www.neptunesharvest.com/

Ill try and get some pics up for you guys soon. A week today since they broke ground, already working on their 3rd set of leaves. Thanks again, from both me and the bitches (hopefully they're all bitches lol) bongsmilie
 

LowRydin

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After reading a little more, I dont think open sesame is worth it for autos, they force themselves into flowering. Still unsure about eh nitrogen issue, any of you guys run into a N deficiency in your autos after they began to flower? I have a feeling it isnt as necessary for them as it is for a regular strain.
 

Slater13

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After reading a little more, I dont think open sesame is worth it for autos, they force themselves into flowering. Still unsure about eh nitrogen issue, any of you guys run into a N deficiency in your autos after they began to flower? I have a feeling it isnt as necessary for them as it is for a regular strain.
Best bet would be to look at what the breeder says. Most auto breeders will tell approximately how the plant will veg before changing themselves over to flower.

The ak breeder we have said around day 14 from seed is when the plant will start the flowering process so we fed veg nutes with high N for those 2 weeks and switched over to our bloom. The bloom has N to carry the plant through flowering, just not as much N as the veg nutes.

It's really no different. Either way you have veg time, it's just with auto's that veg time is shorter so you feed the plant veg nutes for a few weeks and thats it.

Dont buy that bs about how FF has enuff nutes to hold the plant for the first 3 weeks. I had to start feeding after a week and that was initially watering with the root shit from my ferts so the plants started off with mild ferts and Im still trying to catch them up as far as nutes. Keeping the deficiencies in check while I catch up.

That is with organic nutes, those FF chemical nutes will be much stronger than what Im using so dont go crazy. Stick with Matty, he knows the FF nutes and wont steer ya wrong.
 

MattyMatt

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thanks slater..I wanna try something more organic than the FF at some point , and will be looking to you for support. I did actually get Happy Frog soil from FF instead of FFOF so I will let you guys know how that goes. heard the autos love it. Best nute I think I have used is the root stimulator and beastie bloomz.

Low, I decided to stick with tiger bloom until the watering right before the last nute bath you are gonna give your plant before the week flush(if u choose to do so). so basically the 4th watering from last. I did this to still have a low concentrate of N in there, which is what you were wanting. As for the pH, I mixed some tiger up tonight with the tap water, and it was still a lil low. it was easy to adjust tho, so it def helps to use the tap. If your planning on adjusting the pH, then I say go for the tiger bloom. If you didnt, you could see what other bloom nutes are avail that are similiar that may have better luck with pH. I can live with it, and am seeing too good of results to stop using it now. The big bloom and the beasties are the 2 I have seen the best results from. You can basically see the buds get more resiny after a good beasties bath..ok ill stop the porn..LOL...dont mess with the other 2 solubles, just the beasties will do...oh and the molasses...
 

MattyMatt

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low, that first one listed on NeptunesHarvest, the Benefits of fish one, would prob be sufficient as Tiger Bloom, followed by Beasties.
 

kushykushkushy

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hey guys, i wud say look into humbolt products, specifically purple maxx an gravity. the purp maxx is suppose to help the plant absorb alot of the nutes fed to it. helps with the uptake so u dont have to go full strength on nutes an it packs on the power. gravity is suppose to make rock hard buds. the guy at my hydro store says he loves it an ive smoked some of his kush and it was white and dense as fuck. he also uses bio bizz nutes. so im kinda torn between bio an ff. i will use ffof an bio nutes i think. lol. so undecided. im also goin to do a 10 day flush an 36 hour dark period after waterin before harvest. i want some hard smokin shiznit ya dig!!!
 

MattyMatt

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thanks all...howak47, hit me up...may have to get up when its time for a smoke report.

kushy, I like the ffof, but am gonna try the happy frog by FF this time with my diesels bc I heard they love it as well,so I will have a resport on it as well..I like how dry my FFOF gets to allow good air circ in the soil and for more nute watering! :)
 

Slater13

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thanks all...howak47, hit me up...may have to get up when its time for a smoke report.

kushy, I like the ffof, but am gonna try the happy frog by FF this time with my diesels bc I heard they love it as well,so I will have a resport on it as well..I like how dry my FFOF gets to allow good air circ in the soil and for more nute watering! :)
I know what you mean. My ak's in FF are aerating better than my lady's ak's in coco. Im watering 3 week old plants every other day in 3 gal pots. Hers are taking longer to dry but they are 5 gals so that probably hurts too. She has one in a 3 gal and it isnt drying out as fast as the FF.

I used FF in my first grow and I dont remember it aerating this well but I lobe it!
 

LowRydin

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thanks slater..I wanna try something more organic than the FF at some point , and will be looking to you for support. I did actually get Happy Frog soil from FF instead of FFOF so I will let you guys know how that goes. heard the autos love it. Best nute I think I have used is the root stimulator and beastie bloomz.

As for the pH, I mixed some tiger up tonight with the tap water, and it was still a lil low. it was easy to adjust tho, so it def helps to use the tap. If your planning on adjusting the pH, then I say go for the tiger bloom. If you didnt, you could see what other bloom nutes are avail that are similiar that may have better luck with pH. I can live with it, and am seeing too good of results to stop using it now.
I also wanted to try and stick with organic nutes myself, I guess thats why Im so torn between which products I should use. Thats why that Neptunes harvest company caught my eye, they are all organic. Slate, what organic nutes are you running brother? You may have listed it but Ive been reading soo much info that I cant recall, also looked back and couldnt find anything.

Matty, are you stabilizing the PH with products from the pet store that is used for freshwater aquariums? I was under the impression this is the best way to lower or raise your ph. I think youre right, I could use the fish stuff instead of the tiger bloom but the fish is a 2-4-1 with the Tiger is 2-8-4, but since its organic, i can probably just dose a little more and it will be about on par with the tiger. Im prolly just gonna stick the big bloom, tiger bloom and beastie bloomz, but I guess I just wanted all of your inputs on this.

About the ffof, you guys arent kidding, this shit drys out overnight under my cfls, I can only imagine with HID lighting! I mixed mine with about 40% mixture of vermiculite and some horticultural charcoal that I crushed up into really little pieces before I mixed it. Ive been really considering picking up some happy frog next time and mixing it with the ffof, I feel that since there are more microbes and such in the happy frog, it would help to establish the whole soil system quicker, giving a more optimal enviorment for auto seedlings to start in.
 

Slater13

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Lowrydin, were using GH new organic line. Got free samples so what the hey. We love it as far as you fert with every watering so it takes some guess work out of not only estimating what they want at the time of the watering but also have enuff to sustain them until the next watering without burning them.

The only problems I've had with them is they are a bit low on the trace elements and especially low on Sulfur. Trying to get em to rebound with Earth Juices Micro Blast which gives more trace elements (zinc, iron etc) but also gives me good amounts of sulfur in that they are organiclly derived from sulfates. Trying to avoid epsom if possible and keep everything organic.

The BioBizz does sound easier to work with and most likely what I would go with cause Kushy's girls look great. The one pain about GH organics is it's alot of shit you have to mix once you get into flowering.
 
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