1 x Super Lemon Haze {CFL}{Soil}{Indoor}{5gal}

Chipp said:

To answer a few questions:

1. I started out using purely 6500K ("daylight") 42W CFLs. I only had 2 of these lights. As the plant grew larger (during veg), I started to add 2700K 42W CFLs in addition to the 6500K lights. So, during veg, I eventually had a mix of both spectrums. During flowering, I added more 2700K lights and kept the 6500K ones still going. I eventually had 11x2700k and 2x6500K near the end of flowering.

2. Humidity? It was around 60-70% I believe. Nothing too outrageous...

3. dakin3d, thanks for the suggestion. I might disagree with you, but hear me out! I did stress my opinion on the importance of side lighting and under-lighting. I believe that the lights in this area encourage buds that might have (under lower lighting) been "popcorn buds" to grow into larger, trichome-rich buds. So, if I was to lollipop this plant, I might end up with larger buds near the top, but it may or may not actually make up for the difference in terms of the buds I'm preventing growing at the bottom (cause I cut off these branches by lollipopping).

What do you think dakin3d? Pretty much, I think there is a fine line between cutting off lower branches to direct nutrient dispersion and cutting off lower branches that could have really had a benefit from the side and underlighting. I would almost cut off *less* lower branches as I have more side and underlighting that can actually deliver light to these areas that may typically get less light.


Anyways, that's dragging on. What do you think? Thanks for stopping in by the way!

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dakin3d said:

Chipp,

I would agree w/ you considering the fact that you had so many peripheral lights to aid in even disbursement throughout. Although, I would 'argue' that you could still do some minor thinning of smaller branches to redirect to the larger branches at the bottom of the plant. I would also speculate, and it is speculation, that it may be personal preference of whether you wanted the weight on the the top main branches or the smaller branches at the bottom of the plant. In other words, I anticipate that the yield would be somewhat comparable, just depends on personal preference of where you wanted the bud. And as you stated previous, since the light was present throughout, YOU may HAVE obtained the better yield by avoiding lollipopping.

I wanted to ask you again: Did you maintain the yeast (CO2 producing) method throughout the remainder of your grow, after you initially started? And if so, do you think that it made a significant difference in the better overall viability of the plant? I know this is a subjective opinion, but I am still curious if this method actually works for a reasonably small space? And how small the space has to be to make a difference if this is the case? I am battling ventilation issues currently, as my 'grow room' is a concrete walled storm shelter, obviously far away from any fresh air. I also live in a very humid climate and I am anticipating mold/mildew problems even though I've been good so far. Any recommendations from your experience/knowledge? I am thinking about investing in a 20 or 50lb CO2 bottle, but not even sure how to setup or monitor it...

What is your opinion on supercropping and have you found a good detailed tutorial on the procedure? I know what to do in general, however I think I may have dorked one of my nice plants. When I was attempting to pinch the main stalk, instead of mashing the inner pulp, I actually split open the plant. I dunno if this is 'okay', or if I screwed myself.

Man, I will tell you that I just invested in a 400W hortilux ace and 430W Horti HPS. I got a good deal on the entire system w/ a Hydrofarm reflector and ballast. Anyway, if you decide to upgrade for any reason, go 600W, or 1000W if possible. I will post some picks and you can give me some input, but I just don't think the 400W is going to get the job done (although doesn't help that I have many plants). I'll have to take a note out of your book and add some CFLs or T12's.

Last, and I know I'm dragging, but what kind of water schedule were you on in that container? I can't recall if you were in a 5 gal or smaller? Thanks for the input.

Later bro.

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crashingwaves said:

Chipp,

Wow. Wow. Wow. Just amazing. Thanks for sharing so much information about your grow, it's very helpful and inspirational too.

I've got a CFL first grow going, about 59 days in with a Lowryder#2 and a still-vegging SLH. My friend was supposed to flower the SLH at his place but he had to move, so I'm waiting for the LR2 to finish before switching to 12/12.

After reading your thread, I'm definitely going to get more CFLs. I'm currently using 168w total over the LR2 and 130w over the SLH, with two 23watters underneath.

Sorry if I missed this, but how tall did your SLH get up to? I'm already at around 28" and due to my filter setup I don't have much more headroom.

Also, I'm a little concerned about temps dropping at night during flower-- it'll probably be around 56-60F. What were your temps like?

Anyway, thanks again for the journal and nice job on the monster yield. If I get even half of that I'll be happy-- I really wasn't expecting much on this first attempt so it's all gravy.

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crashingwaves said:

Thanks for the feedback Chipp. The CFLs are on order and the LR2 will be chopped soon so the SLH with have more horizontal if not vertical room. Maybe I'll drop sidelights all around it.

I'll look into LST-- I tried to test-bend the main stem but it's pretty stout except near the top. Supercropping is a bit daunting as it seems so radical, but then again I've seen successful grows with that method so I guess it's all about experience.

That's good to hear about the temps-- I was thinking of running some kind of heater but maybe I'll see how it goes. As for nutes, I've got the Fox Farms trio and molasses, but the SLH seems VERY sensitive, I got burned tips after feeding less than 1/4 strength. Maybe the bloom nutes will work better.

3 oz. would be absolutely killer, but I'm with you on keeping expectations in check. No matter how much this yields, I'm just looking forward to sharing some good bud with friends next year. My best friend's birthday is at the end of Jan. so that's the target date for liftoff.

One last question if you don't mind: how was the smell? If it's not that strong maybe I'll change my filter setup and put the fan unit outside the box. Right now I'm using a Panasonic bathroom fan with a carbon tray filter that works great, but I've got a DIY 4" filter that might be able to handle the odor if it's not overwhelming.

Yikes-- sorry this is so long. Thanks again for all the help, it's appreciated. And congrats again on your grow-- those shots of your mason jars lined up and filled with SLH is so classic.

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dakin3d said:

Hey Chipp,

Just thought I would drop you a quick line to see how the other plants are doing? Glad to hear the SLH came through, I've heard some good, some back feedback, but could be different phenos.

Anyway, I'm just finishing up my ladies. Been going about 11 weeks strong... Obviously sativa dominant. Unfortunate, since I am only working w/ a 430W HPS and hard to get coverage at the base of the plants. I'll post some pics here pretty soon. I think that the strain is Powerplant... Good stuff! Cheers, dak

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