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Picks or it didnt happen...... How many are you running on the same piece?

Wow really..what part can you not understand? Everything you use in a grow is a cost so if you run ac or co2 thats a cost,no matter what you are still forking out money you just dont see it.. And my point id proven by you not understanding you are paying so it might be a waiting game of a few...

Not really,i mean if you look at a couple of posts down you will see that rolls have come out as to what they can do is anybody's guess.. If you take into account cost for ac,co2 and the likes well co2 isnt 1 that you have to have but cooling in certain parts of the world is... So you are still...

I think you need to look at post 89 bud..... So are they the same or different please confirm what you want to say because you are contradicting yourself a bit... Like ive stated before.. I would love to see a grow off with a 600watt HPS and a 600watt led config either in QB or Cobs... All in...

People need to do the math..... I mean 70 watts to 315.. The savings alone for electricity means some thing the fact you can have these touching your plants just about can you do that with a HPS,MH or a 315 light? I love HPS but the heat they produce in a country where my summers are sometimes...

Are they all the very same plant cloned? ive had this issue not so .,long ago...under a 400hps In coco,put in calmag just about fixed the issue with 1 plant but the other was near death,i tried just bout everything... And i just upped the calmag a bit more and it responded,some times its just...

Round about price on these Mark? Maybe you dont need testers just buyers....:grin:

But if you dig even deeper most are limited as to size,im pretty sure if you look hard enough. The you need to look at there turn round as well.. There are a lot of variables to understand.

No m8 no need but check your facts b4 you type please..... I mean will you even look....please feel free to come back with a list......

Again wrong...son go try to troll else where dude because you are fckn terrible at it...

The only player that "makes them" would be cutter...... When Mark finishes them and starts..... Come on Mark "looks at him with a hot prod".....:fire:

There all made in the same Chinese factory..so that point is irrelevant...

And more i was standing up for him as to have all the dick riders come in and bag me out..... Saying im some1 else and not me... Not only did they do that but they published his name in full as well... I wouldn't trust the people with a 10 foot fcking pole tbh... If there willing to publish his...

Once again great post to help others out there bro pleased to see you have made a leap forward.. Oh wait...

They 4x4 tents,and thats towards the both of you:confused:

I would still use them just to pro-long there life a bit...

How big is it? Lol mine must have been the real early days....

Which is why we are seeing panels coming out with or like qb..... The idea was fine just the use of shitty chips,can you imagine they used good chips from the start?

You will find that they used ally sheet as heatsinks.. Pull it apart and see.. i bet my bottom dollar on it..

Lol fckn ufo lights........ I bought them when they come out as well...... The only thing decent in there is the fans and power supplies..to use else where....