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Exactly what crime is committed by a medicinal caregiver helping a sixth or undocumented medicinal patient? Exactly what crime is committed when a plant produces more than the arbitrary "weight limit"? Exactly what crimes are committed when a caregiver or patient simply allow their cards to...

You believe that regardless of the clarity of it's very title (The Michigan Medical Marihuana Act), the fact that voters lawfully enacted the law in that clear spirit and that no such arbitrary equivocation exists in the letter of the law clearly providing criminal immunity under the law (MMMA...

@chemphlegm Do you believe we actually have a medical marijuana law or simply a narrow exception to the criminal controlled substance laws as specifically granted by LARA?

Here is the download link for the petition PDF, but you'll need a password: https://www.michican.us/forumdisplay.php?154-Petition-PDF-for-Download Here's an instructional video, but jump ahead about 7 minutes past the technical difficulties:

Definitely not. I'm a disabled vet and could not even afford to be a dispensary patron as a customer LoL

@chemphlegm Are you Esq.?

I don't see the problem with a self regulated market emerging to fill the real word gaps in the patient/caregiver model written in the language if it is to reasonably providing an uninterrupted supply of the medicine to patients or even caregivers. It just makes sense to me to provide these...

Sure if dispensaries had been designed into the law and were to be licensed/regulated by LARA, but the MMMA petitioners didn't go that far in the language intentionally due to the complexities. I don't believe criminal state's attorneys and judges have the right to interpret simply the absence...

Really :confused: So in your view/legal equivocation of section 8 the criminal excusability transcends only some of the arbitrary civil requirements of LARA? So that same patient that refuses to be documented by LARA in fear of federal criminal law becomes a criminal when planting a seed or...

LoL @ my misuse of the word transgress vs digress. Must be Freudian :bigjoint:

You oddly left out Obama's war in Libya and the "legal" technicalities he used, but we transgress ... We are talking about domestic, not international war/conflict here.

Does a patient even need to be a registered card holder to be covered under the affirmative criminal defense provision of the law (Sec 8 MMMA) :confused:

It sure seems that way given the last half century of legal equivocation and precedents within our criminal courts. The War on Drugs is indeed a war on us. Although, under what constitutional authority and/or jurisdiction does our "criminal justice system" derive the right to declare war on...

I believe many of us here are failing to differentiate civil from criminal law, which are clearly two broad and separate entities of law with separate sets of laws and punishments. LARA being a regulatory/licensing agency along with all their arbitrarily numbers (Sec 4 MMMA) deals in civil, NOT...

Lawfare is an ugly blood sport of cowards all about the power and money of the < 1% (lawyers) exploiting the "system" and our society in general (aka the Drug War). If I were to accept all the arbitrary numbers and lawyer math generated by the clearly conflicted/corrupt legal industry as it...

A bunch of Vets will be walking down to Lansing following the Labor Day Mackinac Bridge walk. Might be nice to get some petitions in their hands.

Both the Cultivators Cup and the Genesee County Fair are going down in Clio next week. Should be able to score quite a few signatures there.

If I am correct Abrogate Michigan 2018 and the NORML/lobbyists Coalition to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol are not actually competing ballot initiatives and both could become law if passed?