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So you're at 450w total in veg. I think you're going to need more in flower with these.

here we go again. It's not an auto lol Well of course, I didn't catch that you had said you froze your plants to stop them from autoing. So why would you even infer that to this case with gimmetheloot at 90 days ? It's just confusing him. He shoulda flipped at day 60 when I told him except you...

Well now we know auto's kept in the cold can take 90 days plus to start flowering. His clearly haven't had such rugged conditions. And I thought I was freezing my plants with 63 lights out temp for 4 hours. That's pretty cold @ a constant 60.

BTW Matty, I do think that's a great looking plant. Just not a great plant for having veg'd that long and staying so small. I suspect something happened early on that slowed it down right ?

I've had some 100+ day finishers. But they sure didn't start flowering after day 90 I bet. The chances are far greater they simply mixed up the seeds when shipping and sent the photo periods instead of the auto's. I'm sure it happens a lot. Like how much bigger do you guys think this guy...

so much LOL.. Matty so would you say that your plant was a crazy 1 and 10 thousand bad luck plant? He has 4. And they are at 90 days. Stop confusing this poor guy. He's on Day 90 ffs. FLIP you plants man. Do you even have the space and light for these plants anymore even if you were to flip...

Gimmetheloot any Idea what I'm going to tell you ? ****hint hint**** it's the same thing I told you on day 60 when you said they are "starting to flower" .. And they exact same thing I told you on day 70 then day 80. It's now day 90..... I'm not sure what it's going to take to get it to click...

Looking good. Did you top her ?

Got ours in as well. Thanks @AquaTerra . I will be starting a fresh new grow journal with them in about 2 weeks .

Those X's you have going sound amazing. I wouldn't care if you were growing by candle light, I'm tuning into this grow !

nice, keep it up ! . What breeders seed is that you're using ?

I couldn't agree more. They are my #1 for auto's. I haven't tried mephisto yet, but I think they are the only ones to best them if any. Did you order direct from dinafem or a seed bank ?

I think you are sitting pretty at 60-65% RH. Google a VPD Chart. You will find your sitting in the zone you want to be. Keep it up ! What are you growing ?

it's normal for the leaves to cycle up and down like that. Usually mine do it before lights out. It really varies from strain to strain. As for removing the fan leaves, I wouldn't quite yet. I think you can get away with some leaf tucking right now. 3rd week of flower I strip the big fans on...

It's really hard to say. I asked for close ups pics in the first thread you posted. You didn't actually show us to properly help you. I really don't see any sign of flowering in the pics you posted above. I believe what you are seeing is simply the plant showing sex. A couple of white pistils...

Not all mediums contain nutrients and it doesn't make them "garbage".

please tell me you have flipped to 12/12 last week. Because it doesn't look like it. It would also be beneficial to keep this all in one post so other people can learn from your mistakes. I just noticed in your "day 73" post that you started feeding bloom nutes. Way to early for that. If you...

Hell yea, thanks AquaTerra !

I'm still new !

How much ca/mg are you feeding it ? And I was only being slightly sassy with the bad pic comment. It's really hard to see under those lights. I'm not great at diagnosing problems but I'll take a stab at it until a smart guys comes around. And they will want a good pic too :P