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I might just buy from them thanks, ill look more into it. Ya for my out door i have spots ready on 3 places in the yard, some along the house which get sun all day , I am thinking of planting them in the ground with peat and compost and soil mix , in some fabric bags so the air gets in, it...

hey thanks alot man, i just read this now. I went a head and purchased a sf4000 spider light. hope its enough with the burple for the 4x4 ?is there any strain seed you recommend for my first grow, i could always save the bruce banner seeds , and start off with a another strain ?

what are some better LED light sytems out there ?

"black Dog is so far from the best " ?

black dog phyto max 1000 has 1050 true watts for 2300 $ , It is the best light , but i simply cannot afford that right now, i think for the price 400 canadian, the sf4000 is good bang for your buck, but in for real , its totally worth every penny, the yields and the quality all around worth...

I just got a sf4000 spider from a lighting manufacture on Alibaba , this thing pumps out 450 true watts and should do my 4x4 just fine , the total price was around 450 $ canadian with shipping , not bad, considering the exact same unit from website is like 650$ .I search for hours and...

im trying right now to buy, ill post the exact cost right after, and shipping details. The lights come from one of two factories in china, does not matter where you buy them, amazon, company website, where ever alibaba just orders it direct from manufacturing plant and sends it to you. The...

im doing so much research an what im finding is that all 98 percent of them are made in china and packaged and branded for international business ie. spider farmer and mars , for example the spider farmer 2000 w led is $ 320 canadian on the spiderfarmer website not including tax and shipping...

i cannot find any version of the spider 2000 that does not have 5000k, if your able to see it , cut and paste the model number or a direct link please!

thanks man, any chance you have the model number ? and why this one in particular?

Im looking on alibaba trying to find the light you recomended ?, " 3000K with no blue" thanks for your help

no alibaba now

the 2000 spider says it will veg in 3x4 and and flower in 2x3 ,

Im now thinking the spider 2000 , thanks man , i hope shes worth it , i also have a 1000 watt true 200 watt led I got for 100 bucks, with all those lights , surely i can harvest some auto flower and get some decent buds .

thanks man im checking it out, are the ones one alibaba clones of the spider farmer ? the price is so cheap and and light intensity reads diff on amazon compared to alibaba , just makes me think ?

im thinking of adding the new 2020 spider farm 1000 watt any thoughts ? , added with my NOAH - S 1000w ( NOAH - S only draws 200w , its a 2020 version of a amazon generic LED out of china , you see littered every where on amazon. ) So both of those lights running for 4 Auto plants , and im...