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Hey, do you think you can give me some help? http://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/455701-low-cost-sog-setup-6.html I have a setup listed at the bottom, I need some input on what else I'd need. Thanks a ton.

Not to hijack your thread or anything mate, but Panhead I've got a question. If not Hydroton or Rockwool, what should I replace them with, respectively? Specific brand names would be cherished, as well as alternatives if they're not available.

@Father: That's what I wanted to grow but I'm strapped for cash and I'm not wasting money on any seeds til I can grow bagseed. Once I can actually not retard through it, I'll give some good shit a go, haha.

Let's try and stick with one thread, socks. Makes it easier for us to help ya ;P I can tell you that you drowned your poor little seeds by adding even more water.

What are you growing in? As for the disappearing seed, maybe it came apart?

I'd imagine for the cost you could get better bang for your buck out of HPS or MH setups. I could be mistake, and it's completely likely that I am, but 1200 is a big investment for a lot of people.

Ok. Well lets get you going with some CFL lights. You want 100watters. So buy yourself a six pack of 100 watt CFL lights rated at 2700k That way you can use it to veg and flower. There are adapters to make those lights fit into a plugin. So grab an extension cord, a few of those adapters and...

Well, it's day three today I think, and no sign of even taproot on the ones. Then again, the light I have at the moment is shit. Hey King, wanna be a bawss and check out my thread in the hydro subforum? It's got my setup, I need to know what I am (Or will be) missing, last page...

Ok. So I'm going to attempt to spell out my setup as best as possible so I can get it 1000% perfected before I spent a cent. I'm assed out of about 70 bucks because I fucked up last time. Here we go. So I'll be putting a hydro grow in a 4X4X8 grow room. I'll need four rubbermaid containers for...

Props, Panhead for being a logical and intelligent person and dealing with that in a mature manner.

Yeah, I did. XD I need a better method of germing than then wet paper towels. Someone on here said I'd be fine.

Well, what kind of bulb do you have man? I've learned a lot of theoretical stuff, but not so much in practice. So I can try to help you based on what I've learned.

Well, I put the buggers in some of that miracle grow( All I have) and it's been 1 day germing and 2 days in the soil, I took one of the cups and moved it around, the seed didn't even have a taproot. Looked at a few others, still nothing.

That really sucks. I can get a z for about 100 american

Haha, well you're a bit further along than me. As much as I hate to admit, I started with miracle grow and some cheap shitty lights. I quickly learned the err of my ways, haha. So, while I save for lights and stuff, I'm just gonna wing it with what I got. D:

Oh wow. It's been 11 days and no sprouts? Maybe the seeds got waterlogged for being in open water so long? I'm not sure, frankly. What kind of water are you using to water them?

Of course. I've been learning as much as I can and passing it on to anyone that needs it. I've been studying for a few weeks and I still have a TON to learn. The biggest thing I've learned is to take it slow and understand as much as you can about the physiology of the plant before attempting to...

I too started with miracle grow. It's generally considered poor quality and the ferts in it wreck havoc with a poor seedling. You can still grow just fine, it wont be optimal though. I could give you more help if you could tell me what kind of wattage your CFLs were and how many you had. You...

Np. I'm happy to help. If you're looking for any particular phrases or abbreviations, simply press ctrl+F and a little box will open. Type in what you're looking for and it'll pop up. Gl mate

Looks like a solid grow to me. You said all that is from just one plant? Are you growing indoor or out? What kind of lights and medium are you using? Whatever you're doing is working pretty nicely.