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Did he decide it was a bad idea and back out? bongsmilie

Would be nice to have a chart or something, to break down efficiency, heat, and practical advantages of these. All compared at the same place. HPS vs LEC vs LED I just found out, grow bulbs are exempt from the efficiency standards outlined in EISA...

The problem, heat. Adding anything else without taking away makes my space unmanageable. Missouri heat and humidity is a killer in the summer. Full AC and vented.

But seriously you guys have me thinking, Am I not giving it enough ppfd?

My plants think it works. So don't tell them. (Joke btw)

The two thousands are on a light mover. Sorry forgot to mention that. It kills the shady spots and allows better coverage. Didn't mean to confuse you guys into thinking they were covering that area stationary. Also 4 2bulb t5s mounted to the wall for side lighting.

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Umm.. How did I just now see this channel? Been gaming since the birth of Atari. I play BF4, Hardline, Battlefront, and world of warships casually currently. Loved all of the Bethesda games, except the new MMO it's not that good. Hit me up if you guys want to play a match or two on any of those.

Well it looks like I'm stuck with HPS until this shit gets a little more affordable, I'm not going to spend $4000-5000 to save $10 a month and a little noise. That shit doesn't add up. Damnit. Well thanks for being brutally honest.

That gets very steep in price when trying to cover the same area. 6x12

The 100 watters are about to come out in full spectrum. These are something I am seriously looking into. 8 replacing 2 1000 watt hps. If he sells them for 200 a piece like he did the mothers keepers I think I'll jump on that. My only worry is will 100 watts penetrate? Or would I be better off...

This guy is a paid shill. https://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Richard_Lindzen.htm http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/jan/06/climate-change-climate-change-skepticism http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Richard_S._Lindzen#Fossil_Fuel_Interests_Funding...

A few funny quotes while you make up a source or two. “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” ― Albert Einstein "Bravery and stupidity go hand in hand." -David Summers

Or resort to more name calling.

Try basing your argument on facts, not one random guys opinion, who different sources show different opinions. I posted you links to sources FULL of facts on climate change. Post me one.

Try responding to my previous post.

Agreed 100% Anyone can make a random .com and post any BS they want on it. Try any accredited source. He probably thinks the world is flat too.

http://climate.nasa.gov/ http://www.harvard.edu/president/news/2014/confronting-climate-change https://www.brown.edu/academics/institute-environment-society/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/climate-change http://www.state.gov/e/oes/climate/ Here are a few reputable institutions that back up...

Do you own stock in Oil Dave?

@BOBBY_G What is your take on the Spectrum King lights?