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.... I never said you spoke of the entire population. I asked for evidence that MOST of the population didn't give a fuck. Stop shifting those goal posts.

@mooray I think that you and I are essentially arguing the same thing but I think you've taken my posts a touch wrong along the way.

And again, can you provide any evidence that MOST of the western world didn't seem to give a fuck. Everyone I knew did and I mean everyone. Don't assume your group is a reflection society as a whole. I mean I'm not, but I'm not claiming MOST of the west didn't care.

That's because you're US-centric. We were talking about the Western world.

You can still jump in on a conversation regardless of when I joined the site, mate lol.

So I had evidence that suggested the West did give a fuck about the Iraq war and you have fuck all evidence to suggest otherwise. Good chat lol.

Yep, but this is a discussion that happened within the thread. Someone claimed that the west only cared about Ukraine because they were white. I came on to say that this was not the case. Then you arrive to call my view binary or whatever. Good stuff. And FYI, the thread was born today.

No. Just a long no to that one. You jumped into a discussion about race and tried to twist it into something else. That's your pony, not mine.

I mean wow, look at all these people not giving a fuck about the war in Iraq.

Ah right. Fuck knows what this lot were on about then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_the_Iraq_War

What exactly is it you think that's evidence for? @PJ Diaz

Sorry, I had you confused with someone else. This is the fact I wanted you to provide evidence for.

Okay, after you provide evidence that the Western world only cares about Ukraine because they're white, I'll get right on that.

Yeah, but I changed my mind because I saw the facts. Disprove that fact. eta: I invite you to consider the words of the great Christopher Hitchens: "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence. "

This discussion (in case you didn't notice) has turned into a concentration of race. People are saying that the western world only cares about Ukraine because they're white, all while completely ignoring the fact that the people of the west (and of Ukraine) are not solely white.

Cool. Then I'm going to ask you to disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which is a fact whether you like it or not.

I'm sorry what? You'll need to quote me where I even implied I had any love for Putin.

What made you think I didn't see the part about Kyiv? Are you another who thinks only white people care about Ukraine?

If I were to say to you "no the sky is not blue" you would take me outside and prove it to me by showing me that it is indeed blue. This place is for 18+ aye?

Wow. No I'm not claiming it to be a fact, it's a thought exercise to let you see how burden of proof is on you. Saying something is a fact does not make it a fact if you can't prove it. @mooray How do you know that "When people in Europe see Kiev, the city and people look just like them...