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So, like any newbie, I read too much :) I read about EC and PPM. I have a meter that reads both, and it says my PPM is too low, and the number it gives for EC is like 1200 and the charts all have numbers like 1.2-2. WTF that's all about, I have no idea. So I nuted these guys full nutes (for...

My poor "rootbound" plants today. Sure look healthy to me!

Thanks for the help, all.

I posted new pics this AM of my so called "rootbound" "overwaterd" plants (glad I don't listen to everyone anymore, I'd have re-potted them all). I don't see a problem. I'm pretty proud of my 2nd grow, first attempt at LST.

Here's my saggy plants this morning. Reaching for the sun.

Waking up. 4 PM.

Thanks all, I think I'll rest too :). So if it's just sleeping, looks like I did ok on my 2nd grow. I'll come back here and post a picture when they wake up.

seems to be the concensus.

this article I found by a PhD no less explains the phenomena. LOL My days of rushing out to do every fix everyone suggests are long over. Someone on another thread was screaming repot, rootbound. LOL. My 4 week old Gorilla Glue I snuck in does it too.

Like clockwork, they perked up close to lights on time last night. Like clockwork, they started to wilt just before lights out (about 9AM here) this morning. Someone said they droop at night. Never seen this, but ok... S

It actually occurred to me that they are sensing the conditions outside. I won't try to grow in the summer here again.

Soil is fine, BioBiz LIght mix 1/4 perlite.

Thanks. The fan circulates it's not stationary. I get 50K Lumens at every plant. As I said, I know what overwater looks like, this isn't it. There's a TWO CO2 cans hanging right about it. And none of those would cause it to wilt, then recover, then wilt, then recover.

OK, so the pattern is, every day my plants droop from about 10AM until about 7PM. Other times they look great. Now, I DO live in S. Alabama, where temps are in the 90s, but I live in a good house and the temp in my grow tent is 75. Humidity 51%. During lights out but they start before lights go...

@Kingsblend420 That's exactly what happened, overnight a bunch started reaching for the sky. I have 2 Gorilla Glue seedlings and I've planted them closer to the edge of the pot to have more LST room. I needed to start, I think, a little later than I did with these. Meanwhile, these get left...

I think I've done this right, but I don't see anywhere pictures of LST that looks like these. Be gentle, I'm new.

Actually, based on your comment, I removed the LST from them just now. I think I may have at least one quad in there. I'm going to give them another week before I try it for real.

those are some good looking plants, quirk. And I didn't know what a quadline etc was, but I see it now.

I considered topping, but these are autos. Not that that's unheard of, I just thought it wiser not to. I also considered the scrog but I don't like the idea of not being able to move my plants. I'll try both in the future.

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