thanks for the info those r some nice setups. i priced some ballasts $40 that includes the ballasts with two sockets for 65 watt bulbs each ballast will have 6500 lumens ima get two and four bulbs at $12 each with a k rating of 6500 and a 250 watt hqi for 99 bulb and ballast.thats $228 plus shipping n everything is plugnplay.the only thing im wonderin about is the hqi bulb is a 1000 or 15000k.