What exactly are conservatives conserving?

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tokeprep

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BigNBushy said:
Ok, I get that it might give you warm and fuzzys to tax a large corporation. But all that happenes when you do is the cost of that tax becomes imbeded in the price of the good or service being provided.

A tax on a business is nothing more than a tax on the businesses customers.

If you want to tax the wealthy, put a large tax on items only rich people buy. High end cars, large boats, air planes, or anything else ordinary people cannot afford. Even then, I'm not sure that this would not somehow put a burden on the ordinary people beneath them.

There will always be an upper crust of society, and not much you can do to keep them from shitting on you. Just accept it and move on.
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Economic reality isn't the only important reality. People don't understand that they pay corporate taxes, but they are likely to be far more tolerant of corporations when they see them "paying their share" in exchange for their special government-granted privileges.
 
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BigNBushy

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It doesn't really matter if people understand. If a person is too stupid to understand that concept, then their opinion shouldn't count anyway. You can't run a country based off of what idiots think, but that seems to be the american way since universal suffrage.

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
― Harlan Ellison
 
Pinworm

Pinworm

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tokeprep said:
Economic reality isn't the only important reality. People don't understand that they pay corporate taxes, but they are likely to be far more tolerant of corporations when they see them "paying their share" in exchange for their special government-granted privileges.
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I'd be interested in hearing some more about those special government-granted privileges you brought up.
 
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tokeprep

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BigNBushy said:
It doesn't really matter if people understand. If a person is too stupid to understand that concept, then their opinion shouldn't count anyway. You can't run a country based off of what idiots think, but that seems to be the american way since universal suffrage.

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
― Harlan Ellison
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The fact that they all vote is the reason why it matters.
 
burgertime2010

burgertime2010

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Dr Kynes said:
that is a better solution than becoming pussies and assholes to battle dicks.

the lefty plan just gets us all fucked and sprays shit all over everything.
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Can you ever just speak without hostility? I am just asking because it gets repetitive, I have heard every insult you got and it only serves your ego by this point. Just relax, treat people with a modicum of respect and your presence might grow productive. I am dead serious and not dogging you. Do whatever you need to learn how to disagree without a personal attack.....it is so old.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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burgertime2010 said:
Can you ever just speak without hostility? I am just asking because it gets repetitive, I have heard every insult you got and it only serves your ego by this point. Just relax, treat people with a modicum of respect and your presence might grow productive. I am dead serious and not dogging you. Do whatever you need to learn how to disagree without a personal attack.....it is so old.
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if you want to be a flaccid impotent eunuch, and placate everyone who really hates you, and spit venom at those who simply disagree, then go ahead.

your opinion means nothing to me.

you have been measured.

you are insufficiently intelligent to argue with me.
 
foreverflyhi

foreverflyhi

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Im starting to realize theres a hroup of the same people (or robots) that are harcore conservative. Theres no arguing or even worth trying to have a decent conversation with you guys. Believe me im not a liberal, i say fuck obama, and im for damn sure aint no conservative, fuck the government, and fuck you guys.
 
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ChesusRice

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foreverflyhi said:
Im starting to realize theres a hroup of the same people (or robots) that are harcore conservative. Theres no arguing or even worth trying to have a decent conversation with you guys. Believe me im not a liberal, i say fuck obama, and im for damn sure aint no conservative, fuck the government, and fuck you guys.
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Not robots. But Sockpuppets. They even have persona management software to help them with their multiple personalities and Nicks

Go to a site like CNN and you will see the pattern after a day of who is running multiple accounts. It's big money
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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foreverflyhi said:
Im starting to realize theres a hroup of the same people (or robots) that are harcore conservative. Theres no arguing or even worth trying to have a decent conversation with you guys. Believe me im not a liberal, i say fuck obama, and im for damn sure aint no conservative, fuck the government, and fuck you guys.
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cool, i bet youre an anarcho-_____________ist(who cannot define his position), femminist (but you get to decide who is, or is not one), anti-fascist(but only if you get to define fascism) , democratic-socialist(so not fascist), anti-heirachical(whatever you claim that means), libertarian (but only within your non-standard defintion), non-marxist(but still marx quoting), pacifist(but always trying to pick a fight), occupytard too.

we need more of those.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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ChesusRice said:
Not robots. But Sockpuppets. They even have persona management software to help them with their multiple personalities and Nicks

Go to a site like CNN and you will see the pattern after a day of who is running multiple accounts. It's big money
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it's a conspiracy.

among potheads.

and only the ONE GUY who doesnt grow dope, in this entire forum can divine it's sinister form.

because ummm,

??
...

???

The Koch Brothers?

yeah, that's the ticket.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Dr Kynes said:
cool, i bet youre an anarcho-_____________ist(who cannot define his position), femminist (but you get to decide who is, or is not one), anti-fascist(but only if you get to define fascism) , democratic-socialist(so not fascist), anti-heirachical(whatever you claim that means), libertarian (but only within your non-standard defintion), non-marxist(but still marx quoting), pacifist(but always trying to pick a fight), occupytard too.

we need more of those.
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still better than a racist bircher.
 
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