Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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qroox

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Danielsgb said:
Thanks UB, I'll call the Landfill tomorrow to check if they have some. Pretty sure we get free access since we recycle all yard waste.I've been trying something a little different on my Well Here Goes Again with an f1 cross Purple Rain that seems to be a hog for nutes. I've been using RiddleMe's 'make it rain' and using Jack's 20-20-20 and sometimes Fish Emulsion too & I added some Morbloom 0-10-10 to the Jack's as flowering began. I noticed on the label for the Fish Emulsion that the strength for dosages in varied a lot, so that means too high a strength is harder, right? By leeching the soil then feeding as they need moisture I seem to be getting good growth. So do you think adding organics to Jack's to anticipate deficiencies as worthwhile? I thought chemical fert.'s are absorbed faster, but since the soil is leeched about a week to 10 days apart I'm less scared of a nute burn.Still trying to learn to read them. It's pretty heavy on the Sativa side. Most of a Sativa cross, I've grown indoors. Daniels:mrgreen:
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Hey there mate. I ve read riddleme's make it rain tech but i did not quite get it. You water until "drowning" and then,when the pot feels light again, you water with a higher dose of nutes? Correct me if i am wrong..:) reading page 300 from 1 and going..;)
 
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First of all thank you all for your valuable knowledge, especially UB ;), we newbies learn a lot from you guys.
I've been reading the thread cuz Im interested in this technique. The problem is I cut some clones from the plant's lower branches (Kalashnikova) and it also has some lower fan leaves missing. So, I was wondering If my babe will make it if I cut just above the second true node to get the 4 main colas considering it doesnt have all the leaves it's supposed to and it's kinda small. I'll leave you some pics so you can have a better understanding of what im trying to say.





 
lilroach

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One thing I noticed is that all the secondary branches favored the "inside" of the four colas. While the opposing outside branches are relatively short, the inside ones flourished. It's like it created a "bowl of buds".



Yeah......I had some yellowing. I was light on nitrogen and have since corrected the problem.
 
Uncle Ben

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I know. Why folks seem to struggle with getting decent lower positioned buds, aka little colas or groups of buds, is beyond me. I think it's more of a coverup for their inexperience. Kinda like taking the plunge into snake oils claiming them as so wonderful. They have to justify their purchases some how.

Looks like you've got everything under control!

Regarding the yellowing, looks like some chlorosis working there too which many times goes hand in hand with a N deficiency, especially if one has been using high P foods. They tend to lock out the micros.

Curious, how did you correct the problem. No matter what you're growing, there will be many a time when you'll have chlorosis, and it's not always caused by an iron deficiency. Zinc plays a part too, sometimes manganese. Damn hard to visually diagnose sometimes as one may mask the deficiency of another.
 
lilroach

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Uncle Ben said:
I know. Why folks seem to struggle with getting decent lower positioned buds, aka little colas or groups of buds, is beyond me. I think it's more of a coverup for their inexperience. Kinda like taking the plunge into snake oils claiming them as so wonderful. They have to justify their purchases some how.

Looks like you've got everything under control!

Regarding the yellowing, looks like some chlorosis working there too which many times goes hand in hand with a N deficiency, especially if one has been using high P foods. They tend to lock out the micros.

Curious, how did you correct the problem. No matter what you're growing, there will be many a time when you'll have chlorosis, and it's not always caused by an iron deficiency. Zinc plays a part too, sometimes manganese. Damn hard to visually diagnose sometimes as one may mask the deficiency of another.
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I gave a dose of bat guano/water and have switched from Jacks bloom booster 10-30-20 to Jack's general 20-20-20. There's been no new yellowing since.
 
Guitar Man

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qroox said:
Damn those are some nice buds.How tall-wide was the plant and what strain ?
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The plant ended its journey at 56" (main towers). Width was about 26". The strain was a special mix developed by a breeder I know in California; Lemon Haze/Sour Diesel with a mix of Indica. Definitely a Sativa dominant strain as the stretch is a challenge and the medicinal affect is more of head high, but not without the body high. It's an excellent combination of both strains, but more of a head high, which I like.

The plant would have been wider, but I have a Purple Cookie growing next to the big girl.
 
enzofilo

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Uncle Ben said:
The nodes look opposing to me!
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First of all thanks for replying. However, I didn't understand what you meant by that :shock: Is it correct the way I explained about the nodes? Am I getting something wrong? and back to my question... will the tiny lady survive if I cut where I showed you in the pic?

Thanks again :weed:
 
Uncle Ben

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enzofilo said:
First of all thanks for replying. However, I didn't understand what you meant by that :shock: Is it correct the way I explained about the nodes? Am I getting something wrong? and back to my question... will the tiny lady survive if I cut where I showed you in the pic?

Thanks again :weed:
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That was a hint to please go back to page one. I'm (we) get tired of answering the same old questions with every new crop of newbs. Folks ought to be making their own calls.....most times I just ignore the post.

The lady will survive as long as you don't cut below the first node. You're not building a piano, just do it. :)
 
enzofilo

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Uncle Ben said:
That was a hint to please go back to page one. I'm (we) get tired of answering the same old questions with every new crop of newbs. Folks ought to be making their own calls.....most times I just ignore the post.

The lady will survive as long as you don't cut below the first node. You're not building a piano, just do it. :)
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Thanks dude, I just wanted some encouragement cuz as a newb everything is so dangerous to us LOL and we don't wanna do anything wrong to our beloved marias.
By the way, I did read the thread from the start, but it happens that English isn't my mother tongue and sometime I get kinda confused :? . If u add that to being inexperienced it creates a machine of asking the same questions :hump:
Thanks for taking the time, Ill just do it.
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Uncle Ben

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enzofilo said:
Thanks dude, I just wanted some encouragement cuz as a newb everything is so dangerous to us LOL and we don't wanna do anything wrong to our beloved marias.
By the way, I did read the thread from the start, but it happens that English isn't my mother tongue and sometime I get kinda confused :? . If u add that to being inexperienced it creates a machine of asking the same questions :hump:
Thanks for taking the time, Ill just do it.
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Failure is an option, it's the way you learn. Just try to keep it to a minimum. ;)
 
qroox

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I have finally..FINISHED reading this whole thread. Some of the repetition of q/a was too much to stay calm but i am pretty sure and confident to say that learnt every little thing. I also found out what problems might occur,how to deal with them,how to get rid off trolls like sir.fudja.. An elite learning experience.. I have topped my "unknown" local strain when it was formimg it's 5th node.i topped right above the 2nd..like 7-8% thc max . Also i cloned its' top. Both are under 12/12 from seed. Very vigour, regarding the hours it receives light. Pics will come soon. Merry Christmas to EVERYONE...RIP K.H....I was a big fan of your posts.. I will read everything you have ever posted. This is the least i can do to honor your memoryThanks UB and everyone else who chimed in.~ Bill
 
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