Well as long as you are presenting it as opinion and not a fact, I guess we can agree to disagree.
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UncleBuck
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depends if it was abuse or not.
what bignbushy described, and how he turned out in life speaks volumes in one particular direction.
cannabineer
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I do not see how you can blithely argue that he is not, or anything but a hypocrite. He satisfies the very definition. This isn't angels and pinheads; it's straightforward.Well as long as you are presenting it as opinion and not a fact, I guess we can agree to disagree.
We spent the night together often. We both had large beds so sharing wasn't an issue. At some point he would ask "mind if I jerk off."
Well, he was already doing it. So I said go ahead. Then he would ask if he could suck my dick. Blow jobs rule!
Turns out he was molested by his uncle at younger ages.
As I said, he says it's a sin because the word of God says it's a sin. We don't get to decide what is sin and what isn't based on our personal preferences.
He is presenting the word of God. Not something he made up. It's a sin. There are other sis. He, as are all Christians, admitted sinners.
Him sucking a cock is no different to God than him thinking his neighbors wife is hawt. We all fall short of the glory of God.
Perhaps looking at this through a Christian world view is the only way to not see it as hypocrisy.
However, I think the cop giving speeding tickets, yet breaking the speed limit when he is on personal time is a good analogy. The cop isn't a hypocrite becuse he doesn't make the law, just enforces it.
cannabineer
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He is presenting a temporal interpretation of a text, not the word of God. This is <cough!> crucial. You participate in the ultimate blasphemy if you idolize interpreted text. The Word that is with and is God in John 1 ain't *bad word* text. I recognize that that is a bit recursive since i am quoting text. Our fellow workers in Zen Buddhism have useful insight there.
UncleBuck
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UncleBuck
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yeah, that's at least some degree of child sexual abuse.
I think the crux is his Christian faith. Even if he is presenting a perverted version, which I don't think he think he is, and more importantly, I feel he is sincere in his beliefs, where the rubber meets the road is intent.
I think hypocrisy involves a conscious aspect where the peson accused of hypocrisy feels that the rules he is giving do not apply to them. Being genuine is almost a total defense to hypocrisy, I think.
I feel haggard is genuine in his faith. I think more than anything he was speaking to provide guidance to his "flock" and not coming from a perspective of "do as I say or else."
To me the glove does not fit.
I think hypocrisy involves a conscious aspect where the peson accused of hypocrisy feels that the rules he is giving do not apply to them. Being genuine is almost a total defense to hypocrisy, I think.
I feel haggard is genuine in his faith. I think more than anything he was speaking to provide guidance to his "flock" and not coming from a perspective of "do as I say or else."
To me the glove does not fit.
No shit, his uncle was a grown ass man, he was a child.
UncleBuck
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and he abused it forward, and you were his victim.
ChesusRice
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Please close my thread
UncleBuck
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don't burden yourself with guilt for admitting what happened, there are degrees of abuse.
there is nothing funny about such incidents.
professionals are there to help you with anything that may have happened and which you still need to work through.
not trying to be a dick, just relaying real concern about your situation.
UncleBuck
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eloquent rejoinder, brethren.
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londonfog
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oouuccchhhhh!!!!!!