Rare dankness/rd genetics

OGEvilgenius

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There may be truth to it, but it runs counter my intuition and current reading.

THC doesn't actually contain any of the molecules we feed the plant, which indicates it's a byproduct of the overall metabolism. Underfeeding would only slow the metabolism... at least, in my view. The last two weeks are also when a lot of resin gets put on so having the metabolism slow down then would be particularly unfortunate.
 

althor

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^ of course this test was done on hemp, and there are some people who will try and say but but but hemp hemp hemp. Hemp is cannabis, just lower than 1% thc...

Then there are those who want to say BUT BUT BUT they tested thc content in leaves! Well, once again leaves are plant tissue. Buds are plant tissue.

http://www.druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html

The goal of this test was to find ways to lower THC levels in hemp. Raising nitrogen levels will do this.

These experiments show that the THC content of leaves decreases with increasing N doses. This phenomenon is favorable for agricultural production, because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly. Additional studies are necessary to determine optimal N dose/ha, time of application, fertilizer type and the lowest THC content achievable under field conditions.


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because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly.*
 

Ibex

Active Member
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Ive smoked all but the Docs and Night Terror out of that list but I'm about to chop my night terror in about 2 weeks and she is looking DANK. Ill post some pics up tonight if I can.

They are all good, Walker Kush being my least favorite. What kind of effects you looking for?

How did you like the Blue OX?

Ive got it in veg right now, 7 females out of a 12pack of seeds (Bought a 10pack, had 12 seeds, 100% popped) and it looks really interesting.

 

MrEDuck

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^ of course this test was done on hemp, and there are some people who will try and say but but but hemp hemp hemp. Hemp is cannabis, just lower than 1% thc...

Then there are those who want to say BUT BUT BUT they tested thc content in leaves! Well, once again leaves are plant tissue. Buds are plant tissue.

http://www.druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html

The goal of this test was to find ways to lower THC levels in hemp. Raising nitrogen levels will do this.

These experiments show that the THC content of leaves decreases with increasing N doses. This phenomenon is favorable for agricultural production, because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly. Additional studies are necessary to determine optimal N dose/ha, time of application, fertilizer type and the lowest THC content achievable under field conditions.


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because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly.*
They're also chopping the plants in the first half of August.
Yes if you feed too much N it will stop flowering, but that's using something like a 5-1-1. Cannabis needs less K than a fruiting plant like a pepper or a tomato but still has a certain requirement to flower.
 

althor

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They're also chopping the plants in the first half of August.
Yes if you feed too much N it will stop flowering, but that's using something like a 5-1-1. Cannabis needs less K than a fruiting plant like a pepper or a tomato but still has a certain requirement to flower.
yes, not being a botanist I could be using the wrong words here, but something like...

Phosphorus needs nitrogen to activate*. So there has to be SOME nitrogen near the end, but I would not come close to using something like 20-20-20 through the end. Most of your flowering nutrients are what I consider to be good numbers like 2-4-4.
Even still, and this is even more controversial, I flush 10 days before harvest to rid my soil of nitrogen. If you have done even a mediocre job, you have plenty of green healthy leaves on your plant. Those leaves will supply all the nitrogen needed to "activate" phosphorus.
By the last few days of flowering, most of my green and healthy leaves are yellowing rapidly.

Either way, I am a firm believer in growing how you feel is best. Just food for thought.
 

althor

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Something else I found interesting from the resources they used in the study....

Plant height was negatively correlated with Δ[SUP]9[/SUP]THC concentration, suggesting enhancement of the narcotic principle of marihuana when grown under stress
 

OGEvilgenius

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^ of course this test was done on hemp, and there are some people who will try and say but but but hemp hemp hemp. Hemp is cannabis, just lower than 1% thc...

Then there are those who want to say BUT BUT BUT they tested thc content in leaves! Well, once again leaves are plant tissue. Buds are plant tissue.

http://www.druglibrary.net/olsen/HEMP/IHA/jiha4207.html

The goal of this test was to find ways to lower THC levels in hemp. Raising nitrogen levels will do this.

These experiments show that the THC content of leaves decreases with increasing N doses. This phenomenon is favorable for agricultural production, because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly. Additional studies are necessary to determine optimal N dose/ha, time of application, fertilizer type and the lowest THC content achievable under field conditions.


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because nitrogen fertilization will increase stem yield and simultaneously decrease THC content of the plant significantly.*
I don't think the context of that study is very applicable to what we do, nor are their methods of growing very refined or dialed in. I'm all about the Brix sugar levels and to optimize these you need to have a perfect balance of nutrients. If you overfeed N, which is probably what they did, I can see it.
 

althor

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I don't think the context of that study is very applicable to what we do, nor are their methods of growing very refined or dialed in. I'm all about the Brix sugar levels and to optimize these you need to have a perfect balance of nutrients. If you overfeed N, which is probably what they did, I can see it.
Right, but until I see ANY study that shows nitrogen improving THC levels, Ill stick to what I have seen. That is, results higher n levels SIGNIFICANTLY lowered THC levels.

I have seen plenty of studies showing nitrogen improving stems and stalks though.
 
How did you like the Blue OX?

Ive got it in veg right now, 7 females out of a 12pack of seeds (Bought a 10pack, had 12 seeds, 100% popped) and it looks really interesting.

Out of my tester blue ox beans all of them had the blue berry taste to it. 1 was more of a bubble coffee taste but still had that fruit to it and they all went passed 75 days which to me was too long for a bubble cross
 

Ibex

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Out of my tester blue ox beans all of them had the blue berry taste to it. 1 was more of a bubble coffee taste but still had that fruit to it and they all went passed 75 days which to me was too long for a bubble cross
Yeah how was potency? I dont mind the flower time if it produces buds that are top notch. Do you have any pics of it? How was the yield?
 
The buds were good I have a thread on another forum I'll see if I can pull some up..

I don't have it in my photo bucket acct but the thread where I took a bunch of pics is on t.s.d. in the r.d. section.
 

Cronnoisseur

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How did you like the Blue OX?

Ive got it in veg right now, 7 females out of a 12pack of seeds (Bought a 10pack, had 12 seeds, 100% popped) and it looks really interesting.

I really like the blue ox I have a pack in the stash as well. It is a great pain reliever and it's one of those indica highs that relax you but don't glue you to the couch. I've had it numerous times and sometimes it's been better than others. The best one tasted exactly like the description
 
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