I break it down to two different stages. Flowering and true flowering. Flowering is the first day of 12/12 and true flowering is a couple of weeks after the flip to 12/12. So to answer your question, two weeks after the flip is really when I start counting because that's when the flowering stage really kicks in.
When To Count Day 1 of Flowering?
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nickelz419
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If vegged for 30 days or more its when time is changed. If u flower sooner is when u may start the count 4-7 days after change.
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MetalHead75
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I'm no pro so I'm only speaking on a little experience so far, but I don't start counting my flowering days until a week after my 12/12 switch. I have 4 strains and I used to count the flowering days for them as soon as I did the 12/12 switch, but I was always needing to wait at least an extra week for any of them to look ready. Now I don't even consider them in flowering until after that first week of 12/12 and they usually finish right within that 8 - 9 week range of flowering. Except for my Connie Chung of course which is a stubborn bitch and likes to go 10 (but is well worth it lol).
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Sub cool was once asked this ? on here, and granted I'm no sub fan but it was one time I agreed with him.. he said theday you flip to 12/12 is the first day of flower.. iI liked his post, than the very next post out of his mouth he started to berate someone questioning him and I was pissed I liked his first post, but that's neither here nor there really..
And Tip top hit it.on the head.. of.course breeders are going to lie about.flowering times as most people look at flowering times first when looking at new gear.. what would must people want to grow .. an 8 week strain, or an 11 week one? Me, I don't care so much so long as it's fire, but must people will go for the shorter flowering strain ..
I've never had a single strain finish in 8 weeks, not even fast flowering c99..
And Tip top hit it.on the head.. of.course breeders are going to lie about.flowering times as most people look at flowering times first when looking at new gear.. what would must people want to grow .. an 8 week strain, or an 11 week one? Me, I don't care so much so long as it's fire, but must people will go for the shorter flowering strain ..
I've never had a single strain finish in 8 weeks, not even fast flowering c99..
Grojak
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It really doesn't matter I've seen breeders go both ways on this one.... what is important is that you keep it consistent, if you're going to count the day the pistols show than ALWAY count that way but if you ever pass out a cut make sure you let the person know thats how you calculate your 10 weeks of flower or whatever.
Grojak
Well-Known Member
Dynamite from Next Generation (clones) will go 55-60 days and deliver a nice uplifting high, but as you know it's all preference anyways. Strawberry Cough cut I've heard several locals say they go 10 weeks with it, I just took it to 11 and that was finished at about 30% amber.
qwizoking
Well-Known Member
Not saying I'm right....just though I would share
My observations
A bean sprouts under 12/12...it takes 3-4 weeks, shows sex.....18 weeks later its chopped. But a clone was taken
Clone vegged, at about 4 weeks, showed sex and put in flower...was chopped 18 weeks later
Was it flowering for 18 weeks each time??
What if its an outdoor plant..it will flower in more than 12 hours of light some with 14 etc..at what point is an outdoor crop flowering?
What about true equatorial Sativas that go by age
"The signal is initiated by the production of messenger RNA (mRNA) coding a transcription factor called CONSTANS (CO). CO mRNA is produced approximately 12 hours after dawn, a cycle regulated by the plant's biological clock. [3] This mRNA is then translated into CO protein. However CO protein is stable only in light, so levels stay low throughout short days and are only able to peak at dusk during long days when there is still a little light. [4][5] CO protein promotes transcription of another gene called Flowering Locus T (FT). By this mechanism, CO protein may only reach levels capable of promoting FT transcription when exposed to long days. Hence, the transmission of florigen -- and thus, the induction of flowering-- relies on a comparison between the plant's perception of day/night and its own internal biological clock. [2]"
Each plant has a different length critical photoperiod, or critical night length.
This same concept applies to our beloved plant as well as all plants despite when they flower...for the most part
There are three physiological developments that must occur in order for this to take place: firstly, the plant must pass from sexual immaturity into a sexually mature state (i.e. a transition towards flowering); secondly, the transformation of the apical meristem’s function from a vegetative meristem into a floral meristem or inflorescence.. An external stimulus is then required in order to trigger the differentiation of the meristem into a flower. This stimulus will activate mitotic cell division in the meristem, particularly on its sides where new primordia are formed. This same stimulus will also cause the meristem to follow a developmental pattern that will lead to the floral growth.."
Flowering starts with pistil/bud formation....or the switch to 12/12 on a mature plant....it does not have to have flowers to be flowering..once its on 12/12 its technically flowering with the build up of hormones, which build up the very first night....
I believe I was the one subfool was talking too...unless there were other threads...before his absence
My observations
A bean sprouts under 12/12...it takes 3-4 weeks, shows sex.....18 weeks later its chopped. But a clone was taken
Clone vegged, at about 4 weeks, showed sex and put in flower...was chopped 18 weeks later
Was it flowering for 18 weeks each time??
What if its an outdoor plant..it will flower in more than 12 hours of light some with 14 etc..at what point is an outdoor crop flowering?
What about true equatorial Sativas that go by age
"The signal is initiated by the production of messenger RNA (mRNA) coding a transcription factor called CONSTANS (CO). CO mRNA is produced approximately 12 hours after dawn, a cycle regulated by the plant's biological clock. [3] This mRNA is then translated into CO protein. However CO protein is stable only in light, so levels stay low throughout short days and are only able to peak at dusk during long days when there is still a little light. [4][5] CO protein promotes transcription of another gene called Flowering Locus T (FT). By this mechanism, CO protein may only reach levels capable of promoting FT transcription when exposed to long days. Hence, the transmission of florigen -- and thus, the induction of flowering-- relies on a comparison between the plant's perception of day/night and its own internal biological clock. [2]"
Each plant has a different length critical photoperiod, or critical night length.
This same concept applies to our beloved plant as well as all plants despite when they flower...for the most part
There are three physiological developments that must occur in order for this to take place: firstly, the plant must pass from sexual immaturity into a sexually mature state (i.e. a transition towards flowering); secondly, the transformation of the apical meristem’s function from a vegetative meristem into a floral meristem or inflorescence.. An external stimulus is then required in order to trigger the differentiation of the meristem into a flower. This stimulus will activate mitotic cell division in the meristem, particularly on its sides where new primordia are formed. This same stimulus will also cause the meristem to follow a developmental pattern that will lead to the floral growth.."
Flowering starts with pistil/bud formation....or the switch to 12/12 on a mature plant....it does not have to have flowers to be flowering..once its on 12/12 its technically flowering with the build up of hormones, which build up the very first night....
I believe I was the one subfool was talking too...unless there were other threads...before his absence
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Great post qwizo, and yes, I ALWAYS take my plants to sexual maturity before flowering as I've heard it's the best way to get the most out of plants flavor and potency wise..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Lol, I'm a speed reader what can I say??Lol...daaaaaaamn
No way you read that so quickly...jk
Yea I would agree with that...
I. All honesty, I did read over the part with all the initials quickly, but I read enough of it to get the just of it though..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Just not just damm phone.. Idk I don't simply bend over to.the coffee table and open my laptop.. 
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
Jist Christ did it again ..
Sand4x105
Well-Known Member
I started growing outside.... where you count the days in bud, when you first see flowers....[buds] when you see buds, it's in Bud[[-typing that high was interesting]
So starting to grow inside I start to count my days from first sign of bud [just like I did outside]
Then, since I grow the same, and clone of a clones clone... It's always the same...Seven weeks in Bud.... Not seven weeks from first sign... now, I no longer count...
So starting to grow inside I start to count my days from first sign of bud [just like I did outside]
Then, since I grow the same, and clone of a clones clone... It's always the same...Seven weeks in Bud.... Not seven weeks from first sign... now, I no longer count...
Sand4x105
Well-Known Member
Men tell on an average 27 lies per day....Lol, I'm a speed reader what can I say??
I. All honesty, I did read over the part with all the initials quickly, but I read enough of it to get the just of it though..
I assume you are a man....
That counts as two....
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
No. They will show, give it time.
churchhaze
Well-Known Member
I start counting when I flip to 12/12.
Anything else is just too arbitrary and impossible to compare with other grows.
Anything else is just too arbitrary and impossible to compare with other grows.
Thanks for the reasurance plaguedog. This is my first grow in 4 years, im a bit rusty. Plants look good though.
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robnarley1111
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Yup, you don't need P to flower. You don't make things worse by giving your plant nitrogen, especially during the stretch. I still feed my OG Kush and Northern Lights plants veg. nutrients (Foliage Pro 9-3-6) and I only fed them bloom formula one watering....and they are in week 3 of flowering!! If you check out my pics you'll see that they aren't hindered in any way by being fed "veg nutes" in flowering! Light schedule tells a plant to bloom and nothing else!
Your leaves need to stay green up until you are close to harvest if you want max yield. Otherwise, you risk killing your plant before you can harvest at worst, and at best you risk losing out on lots more bud since your plant doesn't have enough energy (leaves) to make lots of flowers or put on the weight that you'd like.
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I switched my plants to 12/12 on 11/13, and I counted flowering day one a week later; I had already started seeing flowers on the top of the plants by that time. BUT, I just put my LSD into flower on the 4th, and still no signs of sex; I put it into flowering at 5 weeks from seed. So since it hadn't shown sex I figure it will be two weeks from the time I put it into flower before I see sex. I was expecting to let it go 70 days, but it sucks that another two weeks will be added to the possible harvest date. Then again, when I did the research online from people who grew the strain, some noted an 80-90 day total flowering time. So that would make perfect sense since it will probably take mine that long or close.
So now I just know to expect a later harvest time--two weeks from the breeder's suggested finish date, to account for late bloomers and to compensate for variables such as the day the plant actually "knows" it's flowering, light intensity, wattage, genetics, etc, etc. If the plant is ready before then, then that's all the better!