why are my plants so small?

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GoodKushh

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my plants are 18 days old,why are they so small?how far off are they from the size there sapose to be at that age?how will they b efected in flowering if there not growing right in there veg state?thanksView attachment 2914701View attachment 2914702



the lights are 2 14 w cfl,2 175 w agr0-light grow light and 1 175 24 inch florecent grow light,i usualy have them closer to the plant but i moved them for the pic
 
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greenweed12

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Yes I was going to say that the lights look a little distant from the plants - but if you moved them for the picture then it explains that

i think your ok with 18 days - The plants should start to grow fairly quick now

How long are you leaving the lights on for?
 
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Beblunted

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If this helps , I've got some plants on day 15 there all pushing out there 4th set of true leaves now,
I would say your plants do look small, keep lights really close like and inch or two away. Also make sure your using the right spectrum for CFl/floro, if your using grow bulbs your probably around 2500 -3000k which will work for flowering. What you need for veg is a 5000-6500k (fullspeck. Daylight) so far what I've realized is wattage and lumens have a roll, but if you have the right spectrum if should help a whole shit load
 
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GoodKushh

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i plan on buying a 400w hps grow light set up for the flowering,ill probly only have 2 r 3 females so 1 light should do just fine,and my light cycle was 18/6 but i just changed 2 days ago to 24 hours light trying to see if that helps them grow faster.
 
Bakatare666

Bakatare666

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GoodKushh said:
my plants are 18 days old,why are they so small?how far off are they from the size there sapose to be at that age?how will they b efected in flowering if there not growing right in there veg state?thanksView attachment 2914701View attachment 2914702



the lights are 2 14 w cfl,2 175 w agr0-light grow light and 1 175 24 inch florecent grow light,i usualy have them closer to the plant but i moved them for the pic
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When you start off in large (for the moment) pots like you have, you will see what appears to be slow growth for a while until some roots develop.
You might get some boxes or books to put under the shorter pots, to raise them so all are even- it might make it easier to get even light to all.
BTW, I read you raised the lights for the pic, but I can't imagine the tall lamp doing any good way up there.
 
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bigsteve

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TP first into smaller pots so you don't spend idle weeks waiting for a too-big rootball to form. Seedlings spend almost all their energy putting down roots until the rootball fills the pot. Then they grow greenery aboveground. So start in small pots, I use 12 oz. solo cups, for the first 10-14 days. When the seedling is twice as tall as the cup is wide you TP into a larger pot. I usually TP twice, solo into a 9-inch pot then into a final pot. Saves time. BigSteve.
 
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Karma0413

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bigsteve said:
TP first into smaller pots so you don't spend idle weeks waiting for a too-big rootball to form. Seedlings spend almost all their energy putting down roots until the rootball fills the pot. Then they grow greenery aboveground. So start in small pots, I use 12 oz. solo cups, for the first 10-14 days. When the seedling is twice as tall as the cup is wide you TP into a larger pot. I usually TP twice, solo into a 9-inch pot then into a final pot. Saves time. BigSteve.
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Yeah definitely my problem also. I should have kept it in the cup much longer!
 
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sickphuk

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a common prob my man is over watering..... i ujst saved aplant a buddy had but didnt know what he was doin ...and thought more water = better ... and not the case ...
here are some pics of when he gave it to me at 8 wks..... and some i took this mornnig at 12 wks...... Image0009.jpgImage0010.jpgImage0014.jpgImage0015.jpgImage0017.jpgImage0019.jpg
 
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greenweed12

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Bakatare666 said:
When you start off in large (for the moment) pots like you have, you will see what appears to be slow growth for a while until some roots develop.
You might get some boxes or books to put under the shorter pots, to raise them so all are even- it might make it easier to get even light to all.
BTW, I read you raised the lights for the pic, but I can't imagine the tall lamp doing any good way up there.
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bigsteve said:
TP first into smaller pots so you don't spend idle weeks waiting for a too-big rootball to form. Seedlings spend almost all their energy putting down roots until the rootball fills the pot. Then they grow greenery aboveground. So start in small pots, I use 12 oz. solo cups, for the first 10-14 days. When the seedling is twice as tall as the cup is wide you TP into a larger pot. I usually TP twice, solo into a 9-inch pot then into a final pot. Saves time. BigSteve.
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Some solid advise here.

Start in small pots then transfer them to bigger ones and if you have pots of various sizes then place a book under the smaller ones to bring them closer to the light.

@Bigsteve - When do you transfer them to the final pot - the start of flowering? or when buds start to form? or is it towards the end of veg?

If we are trying to keep our plants somewhat smaller then would you suggest just using smaller pots ?

thanks
 
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*BUDS

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- When do you transfer them to the final pot - the start of flowering? or when buds start to form?
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You repot when the original pot is too small and its near rootbound, not when you did it. They are too small for that age. Possible causes- 1. Repot too early causing stress and stunting 2- Overwatering 3- Cheap soil.

Also don't use books to jack up a pot, ok the book will get drenched when the saucer overflows . Use pots. and plastic containers.
 
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AimAim

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Cold wet soil will bring everything to a standstill. Not saying that's the problem, but your air temp and the soil temp can be way different.

In the pic all the lights are too far away as others have noted. A couple bulbs right in their face would be better than the setup you have going on.
 
dank smoker420

dank smoker420

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the lights you are using arnt ideal at those positions. the bulbs should be horizontal with the plants about 6 inches from the top
looks good for 18 days tho. plants normally grow slow at first even when transplants from my observation. i feel it is for the roots to expand first before the plant does.

i had a malabar spinach in the fall outside. it didn't grow at all for a couple weeks after i transplanted it. but after those couple weeks it started to grow and just took off i couldn't stop the thing from covering other plants.
 
Sand4x105

Sand4x105

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Your plants are small, because you need 3-4 times the light... and closer to plants....
Go buy 10 more CFL's and put them in there...
If when you do transplant, add perilite and vermiculite to soil to keep it light and air-ee....
I would never ever down size a transplant... ever....
That will most possibly lead to shock....
Good Luck...
 
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