No Potency

Ou8aCracker2

Well-Known Member
Don't pay attention to nikelz,he's mad because someone said it looks like he'll only get .5 gpw so he switched to vertical thinking that just because he grows vert he'll automatically get 1 gpw or better than .5 gpw.


Kid has a lot to learn,a lot!

He should worry about getting his shit dialed first,then possibly switching to vert.
 
Do this to good weed too? Or just grow crap an lace it?

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I love that I can put my plants out in the rain and they will get more potent and not moldy. I'm going to do it right now!! Who knew? As for the HCl, can I just pour it on the flowers or is there a special technique that you use when applying highly corrosive substances to cannabis flowers?

I have a lot of HCl in my gastric juices, could I just barf on my flowers and get the same effect? I love learning new things.

Edit: Oops, wrong quote.
 

TDM

Active Member
Everything looks right. Had some bad reports on "Blue Dream", review said it was beautiful plant, looked great, grew fantastic but had no punch. TGA is usually top notch but not familiar with other Breeder. everything here looks great, including yield, the thing I would question is harvest timing, have 80% of your tricomes turned cloudy when you harvest.
 

booms111

Well-Known Member
What are your Highest tempatures hitting? I see you posted 85f and thats to high. Shoot for 77f. If your temps go above 85f it starts to degrade alittle. Ive seen high temps make the best plants have no potency and no taste in some peoples rooms. So you got 3200w in a 3ft wide by 12ft long but how tall box? Thats alot of light in 36sqft. When you open your door do you get hit by any heat? This sounds like a enviromental climate issue with the yields your getting. Does it seem like they suck water up extra fast? High temps make bigger plants do to sucking up more water but quality dips way down...oh yeah on harvesting early i can pick buds at 6 weeks if id want that are potent already.
 

qwizoking

Well-Known Member
And nobody suggested that you were checking the trichs on leaves instead of calyxes?
Put up a pic of some plants right before chop
 

nickelz419

Active Member
Don't pay attention to nikelz,he's mad because someone said it looks like he'll only get .5 gpw so he switched to vertical thinking that just because he grows vert he'll automatically get 1 gpw or better than .5 gpw.


Kid has a lot to learn,a lot!

He should worry about getting his shit dialed first,then possibly switching to vert.
Lol ur smart...yet retarted all the same time... all my plants are now getting more and even amount of light... bot reflecting any light... so i guess i should expect less than. 5... i like ur logic. Looking at my setup now makes me laugh at flat growers.

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plaguedog

Active Member
A very high level of Phosphorus will prevent the uptake of Potassium. Potassium is a very important molecule in the production of resin glands and will dramatically improve the scent and taste of your flowers, if the plant can access it. Koolbloom powder and shooting powder are both obscenely loaded with Phosphorus and if used to excess, as most people do (more has got to be better) then you will cause the potassium to become unavailable as well as load up the flowers with leftover fertilizer that will cause your flowers to snap, crackle, and pop when you light it up.
Good luck....Prof.Snook
Snap crackle and pop has little to do with left over nutrients. It's sugar and starch not converted over by fermentation of the buds during the curing process.
 

endpro

Active Member
Your setup looks solid. You are using good genetics, I doubt its a pheno issue.

A few things I would check.

Make sure your plants are harvested at peak. If you are not flowering for 9 weeks or so then you are harvesting to early. Any thing over 11 weeks and your too late with those hybrids.

If your plants dry too long (you say 10 days) then you can loose your thc to degradation. Dont let them get too dry.

Dont dry in the sunlight either, sunlight degrades thc.

harvest your plants in the am before sun up or lights on to get the most thc, before light starts to degrade it.
 

dannyboy602

Well-Known Member
Hello


So my problem is no potency..... This is my third grow at new location and it happened on all 3 grows.

Strains
Pandora's box TGA grow 1 and 2
Qrazy train TGA grow 1 and 2
Blue dream Hso grow 3
Og Ghost Train Haze Rare Dankness grow 3

Setup
2 - 1000w sun master lights hps
2 - 600w eye hortilux hps
4 water farms rdwc
Water chiller water temp 65-68°
Propane co2 1500ppm
3'x12' cabinet covered in mylar
Air temp 85° humidity 65°

Nutes
GH floral nova bloom
koolbloom
rock resonator
Shooting powder
ppm 1500-2000

Cure
10 days air dry
2-4 weeks jars 60% RH
2-3 pounds per harvest Scrog 30-45 day veg

PLEASE HELP
that tga gear never has any potency. it looks great in pictures though.
 

endpro

Active Member
TGA actually has some prettty good gear. One of my keepers is an apollo 13 bx.

The high is intense all tje time everytime and I do not build up a tolerance to it like others.
 

bluerock

Active Member
My opinion:

Strains - you are going to need to do a pheno hunt and start cloning from the winner

Setup - looks OK

Nutes - FloraNova OK, drop the rest, drop the PPM to 1000 (or lower) until you have solved the problem. If the pheno is any good, the potency will be just fine with a basic nutrient. Using a basic nutrient ONLY helps solve the problem by reducing the variables.

Cure - Not a curing person, hang dry it for about 5 days, paper bag it for another 7-14, put in plastic bags or jars for final storage. I've never had any weed "improved" by various curing tactics.


Growing from seed is hit and miss, I don't care who the breeder is or how much it cost (but your odds are improved with more expensive, proven strains). That's the reason for doing a pheno hunt.
 

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Id like to see a pic of the plants right before chop to get an idea. When you go into flower you say like 60 days. Your not counting the first 7 days of 12/12 as flowering time are you as you should start your flowering time on day 8 so they had that transition period to react to the nute change and day light time change. I have never found a strong blue dream starin myself. i have had it from like 14 growers different areas and it never is potent. seems to yield good and look good but never strong..
 

BWG707

Well-Known Member
Blue Dream in NorCal is considered a production plant. Not very potent but good yields, good bag appeal, and fairly easy to grow. I see it at many dispensaries selling as top shelf, Fricking Dispersaries, anything that they "think" was grown indoors with bag appeal is considered top shelf. I know so many people that just straight up lie to Dispersaries and say their buds were grown indoors. I also know Dispersaries that know the buds were grown outdoors and they still sell them as indoor.
 

CC Dobbs

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Snap crackle and pop has little to do with left over nutrients. It's sugar and starch not converted over by fermentation of the buds during the curing process.
The buds shouldn't be fermenting so I'm not sure what you mean. The SC sand P can be and often is caused by excessive fertilizing with Phosphorus late in the game. Products like Shooting Powder contain lots of P in a form that the plants can easily uptake and do. It is very difficult to remove this before harvest and most people try but fail to remove it. The crackling that happens when you light your bowl is most likely caused by leftover P.
 

bird mcbride

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Actually the only time we all start puking is when sh*t like yours shows up and someone has to fix it. Cut back on your ppm or do a chop that includes a 24 hour roots off flush in RO water.
 

jojodancer10

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Boss ur setup is good sound like u got everything in order but do u water the girls in between feeding.Iguessing ur girls locked up at some point.next thing let the plants tell u when they are ready I don't start counting after that 2 week streach
 

MoJobud

Active Member
Seriously, just post a pic of the plants before harvest. If all 3 of your grows are weak, then you are doing something wrong.
 
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