Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

Mad Hamish

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Damn it HAM!!! I remember when Gooey came out on the tude and had a BOGO (buy one get one for you South Africans). Same reason I didn't keep/breed Goji Og...I don't trust new breeders. I even remember the MTG gear being BOGO. I gotta just start going with my gut and taste buds lol.
Here's my take on 'new' breeders:

A lot of the time, they are incredibly talented, passionate growers that feel a little something is missing from the selections available to them and their friends. Then this passion grows into breeding, and of course, with enough time, and a good eye, they start getting what they want out of it. Of course, they don't have the huge rooms and resourses guys like Greenhouse have (one of the OLDEST companies) and for many years their limited runs are shared amongst friends only. And so, a reputation builds and builds. If you go through the Bodhi thread, you will find a list of all the strains the man has grown... It will take me two lifetimes to get that many beans going! Anyhow, one thing leads to another, and eventually the 'lightbulb' moment arrives... BAM. Let's make this shit available to EVERYBODY! At that point, you will be very lucky to get your hands on some. Bodhi for example doesn't have the space to keep single lines going yet even. Nor the legal wiggle-room. But you cannot put brakes on passion! So bit by bit, great crosses get turned out one after the other. No pollen chucks from these Boutique breeders, no Sir! A few hundred beans per run, they are still wanting to smoke some dank too so no way there is such a thing as MAXIMISED seed production.

And they put a lot of effort and money into it. Bodhi as an example again has made collection trips to:

Nepal in 2008, Oaxaca 2009 and 2010, Morocco 2010, North India 2013... And it is but the beginning.

Here is how Gooey recently started a thread on the Bay:

You guys know me, I wanna know.......What needs improving? How am I screwing up? What am I missing do you think. Should I be working on something you wish I would?
We have a great community here, one full of folks who really know their way around a cannabis plant. Folks here have a wide, vast knowledge of all things pot and a breeder would be foolish not to use it to help better his/her products for them. I've always wondered why more breeders don't engage the public about the work they do and how to taylor it better to the wishes of the seed buying community. I'd like to see the days of " take what I make and be happy" breeding done with. I want to always stand BESIDE you all, not be viewed as some kind of super grower aura filled pot god that seems to be the way breeders view themselves sometimes. Indeed not all, but it's staying grounded that produces the best and so I wonder and as always, you know me, I wanna know what your thoughts are.
You folks are always ultra kind and give me way more than I deserve, for which I deeply thank you.
Please, let's keep this a critical thread, one I can learn from as I have in the past, and this way I can better serve you and the site. Thanks guys and gals!

Ever see an 'old' or 'big' breeder do that?

And then a question: If ol' Gandalf here said to you:'Hey, Red, I bred these beans, care to try them?' Would you refuse, and if you got sent some, would they sit in the vault, or would you run them instantly?... I'd put them in a shot glass the second the parcel arrived myself.
 

Mad Hamish

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I think I'm dropping everything except cheese og.. the nearest dispensary with seeds has all tga. If if I drive 3 hours. Another has tga, cage, and bodhi. They won't tell me their stock over the phone and they don't have a menu on weedmaps.....
Cheese OG.. A match made in heaven! That must be the most DANK, stinky, sticky, head-and-body crushing super meds mate. I drool just thinking about it.
 

hyroot

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Cheese OG.. A match made in heaven! That must be the most DANK, stinky, sticky, head-and-body crushing super meds mate. I drool just thinking about it.
I smoked the outdoor from seed of it. It tastes like apples and cheese. Potent. Kind of creeper (old school) head high. I'ma chop 2 party cup(comp) from seed next week of it. Then the one in flower room is from another seed. Then I have a few clones from it too. I have one more from seed outside. Just started forming buds. I have more seeds of it from when I bred it. I want to cross it with something. I'm thinking of making a small sealed cab for breeding. With intake and exhaust fans with filters. Run a cree or Philips led. I'ma wait til Feb. When I can afford to buy a bunch of strains
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I've been eyeballin this one for a while now. http://www.highlifeseedbank.co.uk/Bodhi-seeds-Ancient-OG I'd like to get something with a dense bud structure to play with. Now to convince the wife to let me invest.
Do what I do. My way or the highway lol.

Gand if you bred, I'd go broke.

Ham, I would love to fire one up with you. Laugh, fight, make up, laugh again!!!

Hy, where's my sample bra?!

May, sup with that Melo slacker ;)

I wish you guys could smell my new mix. I like to finger it.

It's almost Christmas so Santa will deliver ;) HO HO Stow
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Calicat is the man. Oldschool grower. Grown about everything you can imagine, and does reports on it all. His grow and smoke reports on BreedBay are some of the most informative and detailed reports you can imagine. I look for Calicat reports on almost anything I want to try. Open and honest, he will take the time to answer questions from anybody that approaches him with a good vibe.

IMMENSE knowledge in that man's head. Heavily into 'micro tweaks' he is even aware of how little temp changes affect nutrient uptake. In a league of his own.

EDIT: In my constant search to move closer to the source, I am now watching another name of legendary proportions: Gooeybreeder. The dude is blowing my mind. Mom Gooey and Afgooey... Look those up fellas.

Another Edit: I just posted a thread on the Bay asking the B-man his story, or a link to it. Will have the info you are wanting soon Gandalf...
Thanks Hamish. I'll be taking a peek. I appreciate it bro.
 

Mad Hamish

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I smoked the outdoor from seed of it. It tastes like apples and cheese. Potent. Kind of creeper (old school) head high. I'ma chop 2 party cup(comp) from seed next week of it. Then the one in flower room is from another seed. Then I have a few clones from it too. I have one more from seed outside. Just started forming buds. I have more seeds of it from when I bred it. I want to cross it with something. I'm thinking of making a small sealed cab for breeding. With intake and exhaust fans with filters. Run a cree or Philips led. I'ma wait til Feb. When I can afford to buy a bunch of strains
A mate of mine did a Cheese x Blueberry. It was spectacular. Funny thing is, each plant tasted like Lemon Meringue pie. So he called it Lemon Meringue. DAMN it was good. Cheese crosses seem to always be a winner. I LOVE A GOOD CREEPER SATIVA HIGH!!! My all-time favourite. Perfect for playing guitar or hitting the studio for some electronica production. Eaaaases you in with a creative urge, then makes everything go all swirly and FUN. Creative waves followed by lulls of contented bliss. Finally, you just get lost, drifting around blues forms or making epic atmospheric sounds... My kinda smoke.

I've been eyeballin this one for a while now. http://www.highlifeseedbank.co.uk/Bodhi-seeds-Ancient-OG I'd like to get something with a dense bud structure to play with. Now to convince the wife to let me invest.
I found the answer to this long ago. First, you buy her something twice the value. Then you get your beans/ballast/reflector/bucket of worms...

Ham, I would love to fire one up with you. Laugh, fight, make up, laugh again!!!

Hy, where's my sample bra?!
Awwww Red, you looked up the local slang. That's one of the biggest compliments I was ever handed by any body ever. MAX RESPECT right back at you buddy. :joint:

EDIT: That's northern speak. Down in the south here it's 'bruh' so as to not constantly be referring to our mates as female under wear ;)

Thanks Hamish. I'll be taking a peek. I appreciate it bro.
...And then you'll buy some of his gear and keep it in your vault and tell us all you have it and it will be sold out and none of us will be able to get any and then you will wait like a decade to run it driving us all mad with anticipation... ;) Because that's how you roll.
 

May11th

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Hamish. Blue cheese is my favorite smoke ever. Shit is like a aphrodisiac I swear, I hope to get you guys pics of my friends scrog, screen is filled, flowering aigns are starting to show and the lil 4 x 2 tent should have 400 watt cmh here soon.
 

Trousers

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Im keeping carmelo, all phenos are great. The bcbd bb I have is a stretch indica and first time flowering her and she jist showed sex last night. I have blue dream coming up in veg and more bb and carmelo.i really would love to see someone with better growing skills than me run the carmelo, delicious has a charm there.
You might have a really good BB pheno there.
I am not familiar with BCBD BB, but if it stretches like a male and shows sex early you might have the much sought after sativa pheno.

I really want to try Gage Green's Blue Dream or Blue Flame and that delicious looking Starlet Kush that Gandalf rocks so hard.

I have a Blue Chees clone going right now. Finicky little girls, get all cranky when you first transplant then 10 days later my tent smells.
Such a stinky variety.


I am convinced our tastes are similar, so Super Skunk is going on the list too.
Keep up the good work.
 

May11th

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Trouser, don't get the nivana superskunk, ill post a pic but its embarrassing to look at lol. Every seed was a waste and im not trashing nirvana I just didnt have luck I would say, hermies, males and low yield, low quality, ugly plants and buds.

I seem to have run into mites indoors, maybe the aloe plant I just bought, but either way im not stressing, its cold out and ill freeze em lol first im making a habenaro/neem oil/ lemon juice spray and if that dont get em ill shoot some acct on them. Either way ill kill them hashly. I did not ever want to have this issue but it seems that it has not caused much damage and is in a controlled environment. No worries. Adios muchachos
 

RedCarpetMatches

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May...you have dirty farmer fingers!!! That shit doesn't go away lol. I tried every product and the old shampoo scrubbing technique with no success. It'll make the sex life a little dull...unless you're sticking it somewhere dirty anyway LMAO!!!

I'd hate too try your pheno Trousers. I've had good blueberry once and puked after a bowl:spew:. Hit me hard me mate.
 

Mad Hamish

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Hamish. Blue cheese is my favorite smoke ever. Shit is like a aphrodisiac I swear, I hope to get you guys pics of my friends scrog, screen is filled, flowering aigns are starting to show and the lil 4 x 2 tent should have 400 watt cmh here soon.
You're talking the Big Buddha one, right? It was nothing similar to my mate's cross. Out of the Big Buddha Cheese crosses, my favourite is Chiesel. Gods. It is like getting a brick wrapped in velvet to the head.
 

Mad Hamish

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Trouser, don't get the nivana superskunk, ill post a pic but its embarrassing to look at lol. Every seed was a waste and im not trashing nirvana I just didnt have luck I would say, hermies, males and low yield, low quality, ugly plants and buds.

I seem to have run into mites indoors, maybe the aloe plant I just bought, but either way im not stressing, its cold out and ill freeze em lol first im making a habenaro/neem oil/ lemon juice spray and if that dont get em ill shoot some acct on them. Either way ill kill them hashly. I did not ever want to have this issue but it seems that it has not caused much damage and is in a controlled environment. No worries. Adios muchachos
Habaneros should have your room a total kill-zone. Nothing escapes that stuff. Word of caution: If you don't have a respirator, get one. I am not kidding May. Never forget you are manufacturing something close on Pepper Spray, i.e MACE. Trust me on this my friend. I learned the hard way. Chillies are a total last-resort thing for me now.
 

May11th

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Hamish. I wish I would of read this before. I used a mask but it wasnt the best, I can say I was gagging and tears falling, crazy how lethal it was to breathe in, I just kept at it though, just told myself to man up and not be a bitch but not next time , you a aint kiddin at all hamish I find it funny how we do some crazy ass things for the love of the plants.

When you did your spray hamish, how did you go about doing so? I slow cooked peppers in 1 cup of water and walked away for a hr then came back to smash all the peppers up and strain that water into a solo cup then add the pepper leftovers to a gallon jug I have with left over aloe leaves. Might have to be a weekly thing for a while just to make sure I feel confident the problems are gone. I want to sleep at night dammit
 

Mad Hamish

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Hamish. I wish I would of read this before. I used a mask but it wasnt the best, I can say I was gagging and tears falling, crazy how lethal it was to breathe in, I just kept at it though, just told myself to man up and not be a bitch but not next time , you a aint kiddin at all hamish I find it funny how we do some crazy ass things for the love of the plants.

When you did your spray hamish, how did you go about doing so? I slow cooked peppers in 1 cup of water and walked away for a hr then came back to smash all the peppers up and strain that water into a solo cup then add the pepper leftovers to a gallon jug I have with left over aloe leaves. Might have to be a weekly thing for a while just to make sure I feel confident the problems are gone. I want to sleep at night dammit
LOL... That stuff is hardcore eh?! Not to worry brother, they are all DEAD. You added the Neem oil so eggs are smothered, but I think the capsicum would've melted straight through those anyhow. Like I said, total killzone. Coot recommended peppers from India that are literally about 100 times more potent than Habanero... I don't want to imagine. Yup you did it right, strong a decoction as possible. Those leaves will not want anything but perhaps some Aloe Vera for a while. Give it a week, then give them a light Aloe spray, rest them another 3 or 4 days, then some kelp or ACT to get the phyllosphere healthy again. All your leaf microbes are GONE. TOTAL killzone. Who says you need PESTICIDES?! Pesticides are nothing in comparison to what you just did. And to think, no poisoning, no pollution. Pretty damn awesome eh?!

Anyhow, here's my weekly update. Flower room now at near max capacity!



Some of the smaller babies wouldn't fit in the pic. I had my ass backed up against the wall to get this one for you guys.

This is my new favourite. She is 2 weeks behind the first ones. Pheno no 6 'Linda'



And in some better light



The second 'phase' looks so much better. I treated all of the plants in this mix for the K def as soon as it showed, so these girls hardly suffered. Just 2 low leaves each.

They youngsters are looking fabulous.

Anyhow, Gandalf, remember the re-vegging LVBK?...



I just left the two lowest little popcorn nugs on it, and a few weeks later, that is what she turned into. Was just a pet project, but now she is gearing up to be a pretty cool mum!
 

May11th

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Hamish. I totally forgot about ghost peppers and scorpions. I may have to grow them , good for chili.
Anyhoo I like to hear you say that stuff, its reassuring for me, I love that the price for me to do a good bomb is less than $3.
 

st0wandgrow

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Hamish. I wish I would of read this before. I used a mask but it wasnt the best, I can say I was gagging and tears falling, crazy how lethal it was to breathe in, I just kept at it though, just told myself to man up and not be a bitch but not next time , you a aint kiddin at all hamish I find it funny how we do some crazy ass things for the love of the plants.

When you did your spray hamish, how did you go about doing so? I slow cooked peppers in 1 cup of water and walked away for a hr then came back to smash all the peppers up and strain that water into a solo cup then add the pepper leftovers to a gallon jug I have with left over aloe leaves. Might have to be a weekly thing for a while just to make sure I feel confident the problems are gone. I want to sleep at night dammit
Can you please have your better half video tape this next time?

LOL Classic!!
 
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